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The Speech: A Brilliant Fraud

By Charles Krauthammer
WASHINGTON -- The beauty of a speech is that you don't just give the answers, you provide your own questions. "Did I ever hear him make remarks that could be considered controversial while I sat in church? Yes." So said Barack Obama, in his Philadelphia speech about his pastor, friend, mentor and spiritual adviser of 20 years, Jeremiah Wright.

An interesting, if belated, admission. But the more important question is: which "controversial" remarks? (Back to Article)

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Posted by: RobLACal  
Mar 20, 11:30 PM
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"The Speech: A Brilliant Fraud"

That right Charles, they are what they are . The party of PERPETUAL FRAUD.

Posted by: JohnRB  
Mar 20, 11:31 PM
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This is silly.

Posted by: Jupiter Wilson  
Mar 20, 11:36 PM
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How dare you call Senator Obama's speech a fraud? When a person has the courage to bar his soul in public in an honest and compassionate way, you have the termerity to dissect and dismiss the very essence of his message - the need to examine the racism within each of us. Perhaps it makes you uncomfortable to do so. You could learn much from Mike Huckabee's response yesterday.

Posted by: Jason887  
Mar 20, 11:46 PM
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Listening to the Republicans this week, it looks like that Wilie Horton is coming back!!!I'm wondering how this Willie Horton never got a position in either Bush cabinet. Very unfair.

Posted by: Krauthammer missed the point  
Mar 20, 11:47 PM
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Krauthammer is distorting Wright's history as is most of the conservative media.

Krauthammer, before you go on, talk about Hillary and her leaning on Jesse Jackson in the wake of the Monica Lewinsky affair. Didn't she know about his Hymietown remark in 1984?
What about Bill and his spiritual advisor of Billy Graham and his anti-semitic remarks caught on Nixon's white house tapes?
What about McCain's support and ties to Hegee and his open HATE of Catholics and Gays?

We live in a country where race is a powerful dividing force. The speech that Obama gave was an attempt to rise us up and not to bring us down like Krauthammer has done.

Posted by: Padraig O'Lamb  
Mar 20, 11:52 PM
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Brilliant Fraud is correct Sir and you forgot to mention he also hangs out with unrepentant WHITE TERRORISTS, William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn. Is there a pattern here? He doesn't wear a flag lapel pin? Not that I care ,but I suspect it makes his America-hating-left friends uncomfortable. As far as the Rev. Wright is concerned, the role of the Christian is to transform their pain not transmit it. I don't need to see much more of him the 30 second video is enough (Hitler felt his rage was just too.)

Posted by: RachelC  
Mar 20, 11:53 PM
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Excellent analysis! Great article. Thank you for pointing out the truth in what that speech really was...fraud. You were right on target. Way to go! I just hope others will be enlightened by all of this.

Posted by: Stephen67  
Mar 20, 11:55 PM
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Looks like Krauthammer didn't bother to actually listen to what Wright said. For example, he never "claimed moral satisfaction" at 9/11. What he did do is ask why we were surprised and why we didn't care more when the US bombed others, which both sound like reasonable Christian questions to me.

Posted by: onevoice  
Mar 20, 11:56 PM
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The real fraud Obama committed is that he gave this speech not to help heal the divide between the races but to save his chance at becoming President. The guy is rife with phony rhetoric and empty promises. His level of hypocrisy, arrogance and dishonesty is shocking for someone that speaks so highly of himself and his self proclaimed abilities. He has built a house of cards and it is falling down right before our eyes.

Posted by: slick  
Mar 20, 11:58 PM
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Charles nails it. Obama is a fraud. Ferraro was correct: white liberals' guilt is the only reason he's in this race.

Liberal identity politics is catching up with them.

Posted by: onevoice  
Mar 21, 12:10 AM
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Jupiter Wilson Wrote:
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> How dare you call Senator Obama's speech a fraud?
> When a person has the courage to bar his soul in
> public in an honest and compassionate way, you
> have the termerity to dissect and dismiss the very
> essence of his message - the need to examine the
> racism within each of us. Perhaps it makes you
> uncomfortable to do so. You could learn much from
> Mike Huckabee's response yesterday.


Why did he give this speech now? Could it be because he is trying to salvage his campaign? If he was really as appalled as he says over Wright's comments then why did he appoint him to his Spiritual Advisory Committee? Obama is either a closet racist, a self serving politician using the Trinity Church and Reverend Wright to win elections at the expense of his children being indoctrinated with racist and hatred views or some guy sitting in a pew lacking the intestinal fortitude to confront a hate spewing, racist preacher. Any of these three possibilities immediately disqualify he from being worthy of leading this nation.

Posted by: Middle West  
Mar 21, 12:13 AM
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Bravo CK, certainly the best review to date of O-Flim-Flammer's "speech".

Pretty boy BO is a stinking con man, pretending he's post racial.

I am sick and tired of being sick and tired of fakes like OdamnaUS and his ilk preaching their tired old BS about evil "white" America while advocating policies that keep the poor down.

I am a human being. Fight the oppression of racial categorizations. F racial bean counters.

Move on!

Posted by: John Tallen  
Mar 21, 12:13 AM
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Typical. Give a scathing critique of points and nuances without offering a real solution to anything.

Hey Krauthammer, so what is YOUR take on the current situation with race in this country? Everything is nice and comfy in your neck of the woods, right?

What is upsetting for me with these type of comments is the reluctance to admit to certain problems with race in our society and to try and find a solution or at least encourage a discussion on them.

Stupid commentators like this guy and others, just love to point-point-point at problems with what others are saying and never address the fact that there truly is a problem in our society.

Obama is far from being perfect, but he is at least courageous in taking issues head on.

With a long list of Hagees, and Falwells and what nots straddling parties, I rather take Obamas advice and either address this issue seriously or just, like he said, make it a blood sport and cynically parade looped clips of some preacher.

Posted by: Jamie in Kona  
Mar 21, 12:15 AM
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Thank you, thank you again, Mr. Krauthammer. I thought I was the only one who noticed Obama's total lack of judgement regarding his children. It is one thing for a grown man to sit through a sermon by a raving racist Black Liberation "pastor". It is quite another for a grown man to allow his children to listen. I can not imagine any American allowing his small children to listen to such venom without getting up and leaving the sermon- much less a man who makes claims to be "post racial" and a "healer of divisions". Sadly, Mr. Obama is just re-packaging of the same of Democratic race-obsessed, hyper-liberal, anti-pro-American nonsense. How truly sad. Mr. Obama is as much a "white Kansan" as he is "black". He is ( or was) the one national figure running for high office who could have simply said- "I am a man- a human", and truly shown the Democratic party a way out of the race-obsession that has dogged them since before the Civil War. But no- he only sees people's color- while lamenting that others do - like most Democrats.

Posted by: Elvis  
Mar 21, 12:18 AM
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Charles and the Reverend Wright are cut from the same hate filled cloth it would seem. This country is faced with profound Issues that it has seems to have very little interest in resolving. Lets take it down another notch, shall we?

Posted by: Elvis  
Mar 21, 12:19 AM
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Charles and the Reverend Wright are cut from the same hate filled cloth it would seem. This country is faced with profound Issues that it has very little interest in resolving. Lets take it down another notch, shall we?

Posted by: Jamie in Kona  
Mar 21, 12:23 AM
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In answer to John Tallen above:
the sincere, heartfelt, honest way out of the racial problems in this country is to simply get over them. Stop. Refuse to acknowledge that any race exists except one- the human race. All men are created equal. All men. Not all black men, not all white men...all men. It is sick and wrong for "white" Aryans to claim that "blacks" are inherently inferior. It is sick and wrong for "black" pastors to claim that "whites" are devils.
Next time the government sends you some stupid form that asks you to check your race in a stupid little box- just check other, and write in "Human". I do it. If everyone did, your children, and mine, and Obama's would not be black, white or brown...they would just be children.

aloha.

jb

Posted by: Rockyspoon  
Mar 21, 12:24 AM
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John Tallen: A critique is just that--there's no requirement that the author of the critique correct, justify, or solve points made in the speaker's speech. Besides, Krauthammer isn't running for president, whereas Obama is. If Krauthammer were running for president, then it would incumbent on him to provide some solutions. Unfortunately, Obama has not, except for the one where we're just supposed to vote for him. That's no solution; that's a blind contribution.

Stephen67: What do you make of Obama's intentions of bombing Pakistan? Or is that conveniently forgotten?

Posted by: trout  
Mar 21, 12:26 AM
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Senator Obama's speech will go down in history as one of the great turning points on this country's evolutionary struggle to overcome racial predjudice and bigotry. Charles Krauthammer will not go down in history at all. He simply parrots the bigotry of his kind. And I feel sorry for him, because he will never know what it is like to have something called hope.

Barack Obama's spoken words are simpe truths, and it is the power of these simple truths that his "followers" resonate with because they can hear it. "It" is a political dog whistle that the jaded politically establishment cannot hear. "It" will be known and "it" will set us free. "It" will certainly not be televised.

Posted by: Miss Orange  
Mar 21, 12:26 AM
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slick Wrote:
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> Charles nails it. Obama is a fraud. Ferraro was
> correct: white liberals' guilt is the only reason
> he's in this race.
>
> Liberal identity politics is catching up with
> them.


What's especially odd about Ferraro's being "at the other end of the spectrum" is that . . . Obama is there, too. On his Senate website:

>>Obama acknowledges, with no small irony, that he benefits from his race.

>>If he were white, he once bluntly noted, he would simply be one of nine freshmen senators, almost certainly without a multimillion-dollar book deal and a shred of celebrity. Or would he have been elected at all?


[obama.senate.gov]

Posted by: Bird Dog  
Mar 21, 12:32 AM
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Hey C. Redneck,

Are you an associate of Larry Sinclair?

Youtube "Obama and Larry".

Posted by: John Tallen  
Mar 21, 12:32 AM
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Jamie in Kona Wrote:
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> In answer to John Tallen above:
> the sincere, heartfelt, honest way out of the
> racial problems in this country is to simply get
> over them. Stop. Refuse to acknowledge that any
> race exists except one- the human race. All men
> are created equal. All men. Not all black men,
> not all white men...all men. It is sick and wrong
> for "white" Aryans to claim that "blacks" are
> inherently inferior. It is sick and wrong for
> "black" pastors to claim that "whites" are devils.
>
> Next time the government sends you some stupid
> form that asks you to check your race in a stupid
> little box- just check other, and write in
> "Human". I do it. If everyone did, your
> children, and mine, and Obama's would not be
> black, white or brown...they would just be
> children.
>
> aloha.
>
> jb


I agree with you on that point. But it does not address issues which Obama spoke about. The failure of affirmative action policies, hate speech in our society and its root causes. Just take a look at comments here and in other forums, just quick jabs painting everything in white or black. The approach you say is what we as a society try to do in practical terms, a "sweep it under the rug" approach. I for one wish more top politicians would address this issue and their take on race in our society. Notice that NOONE in the upper echelons of political society has tried to address what Obama said. Only paid political commentators have either praised it or bashed it. But what are the thoughts of Bush, McCain, Clintons et al in regards to this issue. Does it even exist in their minds or (like I believe) they are too cowardly to address it?

Obama could have simply taken the easy road of disavowing and throwing Wright under the bus, like most politicians do, but instead he addressed the issue of race from his point of view. Spoke about blacks and whites. The other top politicians have not even tried.

Posted by: Guy Falkner  
Mar 21, 12:34 AM
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Confussed Redneck Wrote:
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> I am a self proclaimed Redneck and now am
> confused.
>
> I have been getting all this mails saying to be
> wary of this secret muslim but now I am getting
> mails to be wary of this hateful Christian.
>
> So which one is it?


That was a brilliant statement. That statement pretty much sums up how silly/stupid the right has been in reference to Obama.

Posted by: eddie23  
Mar 21, 12:38 AM
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Mr. Krauthammer - simply envious.
Let's take something beautiful and tear it down. Scary.


He didn't leave the church because he did not want to. What else do you need to know about it ?


You vote for 'bomb-bomb-bomb'- McCain, I assume.
Why didn't you distance yourself from that barbarian hate ?

Posted by: paul94611  
Mar 21, 12:39 AM
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Charles,
Here are the lyrics to the hymn sung at the Republican debate in Sept. 2007. This was a public event broadcast to millions of people and reflect the sentiments to which you and millions of angry whites subscribe.
So much for your honest look at religion & politics in America.
By perpetuating your views you are providing aid & comfort to those religious extremists that say America is a land of religious oppression. Especially when they point to pastors that preach America suffered 9-11 and our combat dead & wounded because we, as the lyrics point out, turned our back on God.
I can only surmise that you and many millions of American's believe that the Islamic extremist adversaries our nation faces are in fact soldiers for God, doing his work here on earth bringing forth gods admonishment on our Godless nation.

Why should God bless America?
She’s forgotten he exists
And has turned her back
On everything that made her what she is

Why should God stand beside her
Through the night with the light from his hand?
God have mercy on America
Forgive her sin and heal our land

The courts ruled prayer out of our schools
In June of ‘62
Told the children “you are your own God now
So you can make the rules”
O say can you see what that choice
Has cost us to this day
America, one nation under God, has gone astray

Why should God bless America?
She’s forgotten he exists
And has turned her back on everything
That made her what she is

Why should God stand beside her
Through the night with the light from his hand?
God have mercy on America
Forgive her sins and heal our land

In ‘73 the Courts said we
Could take the unborn lives
The choice is yours don’t worry now
It’s not a wrong, it’s your right

But just because they made it law
Does not change God’s command
The most that we can hope for is
God’s mercy on our land

Why should God bless America?
She’s forgotten he exists
And has turned her back on everything
That made her what she is

Why should God stand beside her
Through the night with the light from his hand?
God have mercy on America
Forgive her sins and heal our land

Lyrics that every republican presidential candidate sung and swayed to.
Thank you Charles for your invaluable assistance in helping millions of American's understand exactly what is at stake in this election cycle.

Posted by: RubenJames  
Mar 21, 12:40 AM
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As the black comic Dick Gregory says: "Hell hath no fury like a liberal scorned".

Of course Obama's speech was a fraud. Obama is a fraud and much worse.
Obama supporters twist themselves into the shape of a knot pretzel in their attempts to justify Obama's approch to the Wright matter. The far left has met itself coming around the corner and moderates can no longer tell the far right from the far left in their rabid behavior and lack of civility.

Posted by: eddie23  
Mar 21, 12:41 AM
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Miss Orange Wrote:
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> slick Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Charles nails it. Obama is a fraud. Ferraro was
> > correct: white liberals' guilt is the only
> reason
> > he's in this race.
> >
> > Liberal identity politics is catching up with
> > them.
>
>
> What's especially odd about Ferraro's being "at
> the other end of the spectrum" is that . . . Obama
> is there, too. On his Senate website:
>
> >>Obama acknowledges, with no small irony, that he
> benefits from his race.
>
> >>If he were white, he once bluntly noted, he
> would simply be one of nine freshmen senators,
> almost certainly without a multimillion-dollar
> book deal and a shred of celebrity. Or would he
> have been elected at all?
>
>
> [obama.senate.gov]
> to_race_obama_ma/



Ok, same right for Hillary Clinton:

would she be where she is had her husband not been President of the US ?

Posted by: Benfal476  
Mar 21, 12:41 AM
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The real fraud is Mr Krauthammer passing himself off as a journalist. Yes the 30 second sound bites are vile and disgusting and should not have been said, but I for one would like to see the entire sermons from which they were extracted. I doubt if Mr Krauthammer have seen them in their full context. I would like to applaud Mr Krauthammer for spending every Sunday with the Obama's and their kids at church, otherwise how would he know or be able to comment on what the Obama kids have been listening to in the pews of Trintity. I also appreciate Mr Krauthammer's compassion. While some are only condemning Obama, Mr Krauthammer is worried about his kids. Bull crap. If you are going to call yourself a journalist who is given the privilege of having the "ear" of America at least take the time to do proper research. The people of the United States are not as ignorant and stupid as you believe Mr Krauthhammer. Stop passing off this biased garbage as journalism. Just the facts, and when it's opinion at least try to base it on fact.

Posted by: frasefra  
Mar 21, 12:43 AM
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The Kraut nails it again.

Posted by: porchnik  
Mar 21, 12:44 AM
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It was an awesome speech, masterfully weaving in historical themes and honestly framing the issue for what it truly is. Republicans, who win elections by stoking fear and hatred, are incapable of such rhetoric, which is why they don't know how they should respond to what Obama actually said. All they can do, typically, is disparage him on a personal level by calling him names, like con man, or fraud.

It's clear race remains a principal animating force for the Republicans, but they better be careful. If they think they can win by launching a 8-month Willie Horton attack on Obama, it will eventually back fire. Americans want to know what will be done to secure their financial situation, they want an exit from Iraq, they want a serious discussion of the bread and butter problems they face on a daily basis. What does GOP offer? Race-baiting distractions. This might win them Georgia, but not Ohio.

Posted by: BridgeBuilder  
Mar 21, 12:48 AM
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Posted by: paul94611
Comment: #27


"Lyrics that every republican presidential candidate sung and swayed to.
Thank you Charles for your invaluable assistance in helping millions of American's understand exactly what is at stake in this election cycle."

Typical Obama left wing liberal supporter logic. Do not seem to know the huge difference between
GOD @#$%& AMERICA!! And questioning why God should bless Amercia.

What the hell is wrong with you Obama cool-aid drinker anyway?

Posted by: Amerind  
Mar 21, 12:50 AM
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Kona Jamie:
Very well said! I always check "other", too. If humanity began in Africa, then all those with US citizenship are African Americans. Aloha.

John Tallen:
You made a number of valid points. But, please try to consider that just maybe the biggest racists now in this country are the types who excuse the likes of Rev Wrong such as BO.

Posted by: B. Mull  
Mar 21, 12:52 AM
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You didn't do any real research for this column, did you Krauthammer? You didn't listen to the actual tapes of these sermons so you don't know the context of the tired quotations you cite in this column.

In fact, as I was reading your piece I realized there wasn't one new insight. It's just a rehash of the same old vitriol right wing commentators have been spewing for days.

Though I shouldn't dignify your piece of crap with a rebuttal, let's look at your bottom line: Obama shouldn't have taken his kids to that church.

TUCC teaches children:
--Rejection of BET/Hip Hop culture
--To learn from living and breathing examples of Black professionals who have 'achieved' doing something other than dribbling/carrying some sort of ball, or shuffling in front of a microphone.
--That success in America is quite attainable, through education and hard work.
--A sense of self-worth and pride that will make them more productive citizens as they grow up.
--A context about the world in which they live. Only by admitting and confronting White Supremacy and all the traps that it can set for their children, will their children be provided with the armor to go forth and succeed in this world.
--The time honored lesson of ' how to get over' that has been passed from generation to generation in the Black community.

For the above reasons, TUCC is one of the largest congregations of middle- and upper-class Blacks in the Chicago area. Those folks aren't lunatics.

This is called research, Krauthammer. Notice how it makes you think again about Rev. Wright. In fact, if you were an African-American in Chicago you'd probably be in the pews this Easter Sunday.

Posted by: frasefra  
Mar 21, 12:56 AM
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Benfal476 Wrote:
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> The real fraud is Mr Krauthammer passing himself
> off as a journalist.


Charles AND his Pulitzers are journalistic frauds?

The man has a Quadraplegic since 20, is an M.D. and has won countless JOURNALISTIC awards as a conservative, no less!

Disprove the message, don't make ignorant comments about the messenger.

Posted by: Sam Clare  
Mar 21, 12:57 AM
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This IS silly.

This is the problem I have with logos and the critics (not just with Obama but with many critics in general): If you disect something enough, put your own take on it, and pick apart every point and sentence, you can make any argument you want and have it make sense. You just have to be looking hard for things to criticize, which is exactly what this columnist has done.

It's exactly what most of the harsher critics have done to Mr. Obama. Now, Obama does deserve some criticism, everyone does. Even as one of his supporters I think he's made some mistakes and I don't agree with him on everything. But there are so many people out there just determined to find something wrong with everything he does, no matter what he does.

And for those of you who are just SO upset about the Rev. Wright thing:
Why aren't you angry at McCain for embracing (beforehand having condemned) bigots like Jerry Falwell? I'll tell you why: because Jerry Falwell's bigotry was more acceptable to you, it's more agreeable, it's more familiar, it's more white, and it's more OK to hate homos.

But God forbid Mr. Wright gets carried away during a few clips of soundbite throughout his career, and all of a sudden we need to dismiss Mr. Obama by guilt by association, condemn him for following in Christ's steps by condemning the sin but not the sinner.

Posted by: paul94611  
Mar 21, 01:00 AM
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Bridge Builder,
As an American who has devoted all of adult life in service to our country. First in a uniformed capacity in peace & war and later with the Justice department where I worked directly with the issues surrounding al-Qaeda terrorists in federal custody I put your closing question back on you.
How have you served your country, or are you just another free loader drinking the kool aid of the folks that subscribe to the notion that America is all about my way or the highway?
After all, it is a free country and I am not saying that you are, in any way less entitled to your ideals and beliefs.
I merely challenge you as to what have you contributed to your nation, besides your wit and humor?

Posted by: Thomas1234  
Mar 21, 01:00 AM
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Very accurate article! As usual, the Obamanites think Obama can do no wrong. Yeah, he's great for comparing his "white grandmother's" private comments to Wright's maniacal rantings. Whether they can admit it or not, Obama made a grave mistake for choosing Wright and this church for his spiritual guidance, the same church that gave Louis Farrakhan, Nation of Islam leader, a lifetime achievement award. Many people are questioning whether Trinity is really a true christian church. One thing is for sure, it is a racist church, filled with endless anger and resentment. By the way, REDNECK, it's obvious you are an Obama fan through and through...making ridiculous generalizations just like Wright.

Posted by: paul94611  
Mar 21, 01:02 AM
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posted by: Sam Clare
Comment: #37
Mar 21, 12:57 AM
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This IS silly.

This is the problem I have with logos and the critics (not just with Obama but with many critics in general): If you disect something enough, put your own take on it, and pick apart every point and sentence, you can make any argument you want and have it make sense. You just have to be looking hard for things to criticize, which is exactly what this columnist has done.
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Yep.
A famous quote used by the character Polyanna goes; "If you look for the evil in man you will surely find it".
Thank you for your insightful comment.

Posted by: NEW CHANGE  
Mar 21, 01:03 AM
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As Obama's political career blossomed, he could have quietly left Trinity for one of those more staid black churches, but he chose to stay. In his speech, he said he disagreed with Wright strongly, and yet he didn't leave the church (or even criticize his pastor until Wright's sermons became a campaign issue). He didn't explain why he stayed, but by trying to show black and white resentment as the backdrop for Wright's comments, Obama suggested that his response to controversy isn't to walk out of the room but to try to understand what's fueling the fire. He also drew a distinction between political advice and spiritual guidance, arguing that many Americans know what it's like to disagree with something their pastor or priest or rabbi says. AL GORE WILL GET IN

OBAMA SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN OIUT AND WENT TO TOHER CHURCH WHEN HE COULD!!!!!WHERE IS CLAIRE MCKASKIL AND THE FEMALE GOVENOR OR KANSOAS AKTHLEENSEVOLOUS NOW AND WERE IS TED KENNEDY NOW THEY ARE NOT GETTING NEAR HIMTHEY KNOW THAT IT WOULD BE POLITICAL SUICIDE IF THAT GOT ANYWHERE NEAR HIMAND AFTE RTHE NEW ENDORSEMENT OF THE BLACK PANTHER PARTY COME ON HE IS DONE AND HE WILL RESIGN NEXT WEEK

Posted by: Jack Boot  
Mar 21, 01:04 AM
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Excellent point about Obama having the "good judgement" to take his children to learn from a man in the past.

It must be nice to sit around every Sunday and listen to a fine speaker explain why all your problems are the fault of someone else. Too bad for the joyous congregation - it doesn't happen to be true. Lots of ethnic groups and religious groups were the victims of discrimination. Asians, Jews, Irish, Catholics, native Americans, women, Italians, Hispanics....probably others.

Fortunately for them, they didn't sit around and blame everyone else but themselves for their problems.

Obama? He'll be judged by the content of his character. So will his mentor.

Posted by: NEW CHANGE  
Mar 21, 01:06 AM
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ZOGBY HAS BEEN TALKING TO SOURCES,WERE OBAMA WILL ASSIGN HIS DELEGATES TO AL GORE TO MAKE HIM THE NOMINEEE, I GUESS IF THAT HAPPENED AND HILLARY RAN AGAINST AL GORE THAT WOULD BE FINE WITH ME IF HILLARY LOST TO AL GORE,AS LONG AS BARCK GETS OUT AND CLINTON PEOPLE AND OBAMA PEOPLE WILL UNTIE BEHIND AL GORE EASILY!!!SO PEOPLE LETS RALLY BEHIND AL GORE!!!! BUT AL GORE BETTER BE PRO GUN!!! SO HE CAN WIN WEST VIRGINIA,AND HE NEEDS OT CHOOSE JIM WEBB OR HAROLD FORD FOR HIS VICE PRESIDENT OR EVN JOE LIEBERMAN!!!!THIS WILL BE IN NEWS TOMMORROW!!! IT WILL BE IN NEWS TOMMORROW I GUARANTEE IT!!!!

Posted by: Thomas 1234  
Mar 21, 01:07 AM
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Dear Sam,

Because McCain did not embrace Falwell by choosing him as a spiritual advisor and mentor. There is a CLOSE relationship between Obama and Wright. You must know there is a HUGE difference between an acquaintance and a relationship. Also, you are trying to minimize the relevance of Wright's sermons and Obama's membership in this church for 20 years. You can't choose your grandmother, you CAN choose your pastor and church.

Posted by: GetAGripIII  
Mar 21, 01:12 AM
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Posted by: Sam Clare
Comment: #37

Your problem, Sam Clare is they you are too Myopic with your far left liberal view of America.
If that fat @#$%& Bigot (god rest his soul) had shouted GOD @#$%& AMERICA from the pulpit his fat @#$%& would have been tossed under the bus by the Christian right and they would have backed that bus over that bigoted toad at least a half dozen times. You Obama supporters are just confirming what much of America has suspected for years about your sick twisted logic and agenda.

Posted by: seabizkit  
Mar 21, 01:14 AM
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There is a difference between the "fire & brimstone" from Christian pastors that denounce people for their support for drugs, abortion, homosexuality, pornography that are sins in Christian theology.
The "other" pastor denounces a whole race and spreads vicious lies that are apart from Christian teaching. Doesn't he know the 9th commandment "Thous Shall NOt bear false witness against they Neighbor."
I also don't buy his reasoning that he cannot disown this pastor it isn't like he doesn't have a choice like if Rev. Wright was actually part of his family in the biological sense like his grandma -- instead he chose to make him one "like an uncle" and it sounded like he was more than an uncle.

Posted by: see the truth  
Mar 21, 01:19 AM
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"That's why the speech made so many liberal commentators swoon: It bathed them in racial guilt, while flattering their intellectual pretensions. An unbeatable combination."

AMEN

Posted by: vinnyp  
Mar 21, 01:19 AM
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Great article! Could you email it to Crhis Matthews amd NoraH O'Donnell from MSNBC. It maight bring them back on planet earth.
I would have said to send it also to Keith Olbermann but I think he would just asks Chris Mattthews what to think anyway!

Posted by: Sam Clare  
Mar 21, 01:20 AM
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Thomas 1234

You make some good points. I think my Falwell point still stands, however.
And yes, I am trying to minimize the relevance of Wright's sermons. In the aftermath of all this, a lot of other African American church leaders in Chicago expressed confusion, because Trinity has always been considered a very mainstream church, a normal representation of what goes on in black churches in America. And NO, I'm not saying that every single black church in America has pastors like Mr. Wright, but many many do. It's common @#$%&, and the fact that people don't realize that only validates Mr. Obama's point of the racial divide that exists in this country.







Thomas 1234 Wrote:
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> Dear Sam,
>
> Because McCain did not embrace Falwell by choosing
> him as a spiritual advisor and mentor. There is a
> CLOSE relationship between Obama and Wright. You
> must know there is a HUGE difference between an
> acquaintance and a relationship. Also, you are
> trying to minimize the relevance of Wright's
> sermons and Obama's membership in this church for
> 20 years. You can't choose your grandmother, you
> CAN choose your pastor and church.

Posted by: Mike H in Cali  
Mar 21, 01:22 AM
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Good point, Charles, if America is evolving then why would Obama expose his young daughters to one of the old school haters?

Barack's description of his grandmother today as being fearful like a "typical white person" makes me laugh. If McCain or Hillary referred to a "typical black person," the liberal media (NYT, CBS, MSNBC, etc.) would be in an uproar. But for such media Barack can see no evil, hear no evil, and speak no evil.

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Mar 21, 01:22 AM
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NEW CHANGE Wrote:
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> ZOGBY HAS BEEN TALKING TO SOURCES,WERE OBAMA WILL
> ASSIGN HIS DELEGATES TO AL GORE TO MAKE HIM THE
> NOMINEEE, I GUESS IF THAT HAPPENED AND HILLARY RAN
> AGAINST AL GORE THAT WOULD BE FINE WITH ME IF
> HILLARY LOST TO AL GORE,AS LONG AS BARCK GETS OUT
> AND CLINTON PEOPLE AND OBAMA PEOPLE WILL UNTIE
> BEHIND AL GORE EASILY!!!SO PEOPLE LETS RALLY
> BEHIND AL GORE!!!! BUT AL GORE BETTER BE PRO
> GUN!!! SO HE CAN WIN WEST VIRGINIA,AND HE NEEDS OT
> CHOOSE JIM WEBB OR HAROLD FORD FOR HIS VICE
> PRESIDENT OR EVN JOE LIEBERMAN!!!!THIS WILL BE IN
> NEWS TOMMORROW!!! IT WILL BE IN NEWS TOMMORROW I
> GUARANTEE IT!!!!


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Zogby has no creditability. He is a professed supporter of Obama just attempting to cause more confusion and make himself look. The man is a a joke.

Posted by: Sam Clare  
Mar 21, 01:26 AM
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GetAGripIII,

Get a grip. Myopic really isn't that impressive sounding of a word anymore, it's overdone.

Far left? You have no idea what I am, @#$%&. On many things, yes, I'm far left. On foreign policy, universal health care, pro stem-cell, global warming, and some other issues.

I am also anti-welfare, pro-life, anti gun control, pro-constitution, anti-cloning, pro free trade, and I'm not all that sure about gay marriage.

And I tend to vote democrat.

This nonsense is what really hurts America. Stigmatizing people who disagree with you as "far-left" and talking about my "agenda." It's attitudes like this that end of being responsible for some of the gravest tragedies in human history.







GetAGripIII Wrote:
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> Posted by: Sam Clare
> Comment: #37
>
> Your problem, Sam Clare is they you are too Myopic
> with your far left liberal view of America.
> If that fat @#$%& Bigot (god rest his soul) had
> shouted GOD @#$%& AMERICA from the pulpit his fat
> @#$%& would have been tossed under the bus by the
> Christian right and they would have backed that
> bus over that bigoted toad at least a half dozen
> times. You Obama supporters are just confirming
> what much of America has suspected for years about
> your sick twisted logic and agenda.

Posted by: vinnyp  
Mar 21, 01:26 AM
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Great article! Could you email it to Chris Matthews amd Norah O'Donnell from MSNBC. It might bring them back on planet earth.
I would have said to send it also to Keith Olbermann but I think he would just asks Chris Matthews what to think anyway!
It is the most self serving speech I have heard!
Basically, since some of us are not half black and half white, we can't have different opinions on racial issues that are not approved by Sen. Obama since we are less relevant (isn't that a form of racism).

Also aren't there other races than black and white? As Obama sort of cast them out as irrelevant or non existant??

(sorry I hit the post button accidentally before i was finished the first time)

Posted by: Phoenix Comment  
Mar 21, 01:27 AM
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Mr. Charles Krauthammer, it is so good to see people in the media not partaking in the Kool-Aid. Thank you for keeping up with the real issue behind the speech. People who do not agree with us are not facing, and are completely overlooking, the fact that Obama is running for president of the Unites States, and it is a huge disgrace for him and his wife Michelle to have belonged to a hate monger church for 20+ years, and completely condone their friendship and love for Rev. Wright, and then think it's also okay to raise their daughters with these beliefs. If they sat and listened to it for that many years, one knows they believe all of it. ICK! ICK! ICK!

Then to make a speech to try and make up for the lies and to brainwashingly try and tell Americans that a vote for him (Obama) is a vote against racism???

All the white people I know are not racist, but after seeing Rev. Wright's video I think a whole lot of people's eyes were opened to the fact that racism is alive and thriving in many black churches and communities. That part is a good thing, but it doesn't make Obama deserving of the candidacy and it will take a good deal of therapy to cure him, Michelle, their daughters and Rev. Wright and the members of their church of their racist beliefs.

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Mar 21, 01:35 AM
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Geez, I've got to get to bed soon,

but

"fire & brimstone" is just fine. What's narrow about you is that you think there's only one way to practice Christianity. Yes, God forbid we have homosexuality and porno, things that always have and always will exist no matter who you demonize. Christ also preached, I'd say even more fervently, about the need for social justice. Mr. Wright chose to focus his ministry on that issue. If you actually evaluate his actual work in the community and see what he has done in the real world, you'll see that he's done pretty well following Christ's example.

Brings me back to my original point, which is nobody's perfect. Mr. Wright is divisive and rancorous. Mr. Obama is kinda cocky, Mrs. Clinton is shady, McCain doesn't generally bother to educate himself on things like economics, the list goes on down to every single one of us.

No, Wright was not actually Obama's uncle. But he's responsible for converting him to Christianity, he married he and Michelle, he baptized his daughters, and along the way, he made offensive/incendiary comments that aren't all that unusual coming from these pulpits.






seabizkit Wrote:
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> There is a difference between the "fire &
> brimstone" from Christian pastors that denounce
> people for their support for drugs, abortion,
> homosexuality, pornography that are sins in
> Christian theology.
> The "other" pastor denounces a whole race and
> spreads vicious lies that are apart from Christian
> teaching. Doesn't he know the 9th commandment
> "Thous Shall NOt bear false witness against they
> Neighbor."
> I also don't buy his reasoning that he cannot
> disown this pastor it isn't like he doesn't have a
> choice like if Rev. Wright was actually part of
> his family in the biological sense like his
> grandma -- instead he chose to make him one "like
> an uncle" and it sounded like he was more than an
> uncle.

Posted by: ObamaTheSociopath  
Mar 21, 01:35 AM
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You decide for yourself.

# Glibness and Superficial Charm

# Manipulative and Conning
They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.

# Grandiose Sense of Self
Feels entitled to certain things as "their right."

# Pathological Lying
Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.

# Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.

# Shallow Emotions
When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.


# Need for Stimulation
Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.

# Callousness/Lack of Empathy
Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.

# Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.

Posted by: frank_c  
Mar 21, 01:39 AM
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Yes, Obama indeed has wrong moral standards. He wrongly compared Mr. Wright with Mrs.Geraldine Ferraro and himself grandmother, since Mrs.Geraldine Ferraro and his grandmother didn't say any anti-American thing. Can you trust him and choose him as a president?

Posted by: likewhoa  
Mar 21, 01:43 AM
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It appears that Charles is one of the members of the media who declined Barack's invitation to an honest adult dialouge on race in the US, and has decided to treat it as spectacle and distraction.

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Mar 21, 01:43 AM
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Posted by: Sam Clare
Comment: #52

Sorry Sam Clure. I did not realize that you were in treatment for a multiple personality disorder.
Good luck to you.

Posted by: Sam Clare  
Mar 21, 01:45 AM
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You're the sociopath.

You've got the balls to think that A) you're a trained psychoanalyst, cool smiley you've somehow delved extraordinarily deep into Mr. Obama's psyche simply by watching him, C) you, as an untrained professional, somehow have the right to think that you should be influencing public opinion by spewing this @#$%&.

Go back to your outhouse, man.

I'd love to actually go point by point and tell you why each of your charges is either stupid, untrue, or just unverifiable by anything but theraputic evidence... but I really, really don't feel like it. It would take pages. That's what thoughtful analyses take, pages. Not little definitions out of an old psychology textbook.








ObamaTheSociopath Wrote:
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> You decide for yourself.
>
> # Glibness and Superficial Charm
>
> # Manipulative and Conning
> They never recognize the rights of others and see
> their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They
> appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile
> and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an
> instrument to be used. They may dominate and
> humiliate their victims.
>
> # Grandiose Sense of Self
> Feels entitled to certain things as "their
> right."
>
> # Pathological Lying
> Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is
> almost impossible for them to be truthful on a
> consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up
> in, a complex belief about their own powers and
> abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to
> pass lie detector tests.
>
> # Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
> A deep seated rage, which is split off and
> repressed, is at their core. Does not see others
> around them as people, but only as targets and
> opportunities. Instead of friends, they have
> victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The
> end always justifies the means and they let
> nothing stand in their way.
>
> # Shallow Emotions
> When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love
> and compassion it is more feigned than experienced
> and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by
> insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and
> cold by what would upset a normal person. Since
> they are not genuine, neither are their promises.
>
>
> # Need for Stimulation
> Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical
> punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling
> are common.
>
> # Callousness/Lack of Empathy
> Unable to empathize with the pain of their
> victims, having only contempt for others' feelings
> of distress and readily taking advantage of them.
>
> # Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
> Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions
> of love and approval produce an addictive cycle
> for abuser and abused, as well as creating
> hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are
> all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish,
> no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for
> their impact on others.

Posted by: Sam Clare  
Mar 21, 01:50 AM
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Thank you for the well wishes. Your first post could've been so nice

Actually, you've just bought into the notion that somehow, stances on political issues have to be stamped together. You can't have one without the other. Well if you actually bother to look past party platforms, you might see that you can exercise INDEPENDENT judgement and agree, and then disagree, with the same people on different issues.

Issues have been falsely linked together, I think people have been duped into the idea that the beliefs of the "right" and the "left" are logically linked together by philosophy. You can make a constitutional argument for, and against, abortion. Great lawyers have done both. Wouldn't you think that conservatives would be on the side of CONSERVING? And wouldn't you think that liberals would be on the side of saving unborn kiddos?





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> Posted by: Sam Clare
> Comment: #52
>
> Sorry Sam Clure. I did not realize that you were
> in treatment for a multiple personality disorder.
> Good luck to you.

Posted by: eddie23  
Mar 21, 01:52 AM
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The children are likely going to the children's hour during the sermon - so mute point here.

A question may be allowed here:

Does not the Thora teach that all goy ( = non Jews ) are like dogs, and should be treated as such ?

I am not an expert on this. But if it says so, does that qualify as a hate speech and should everybody consequentially distance himself from this position ?


Why do I bring this up ?
I do not like the fingerpointing against Obama; the world is full of it'
s share of hate and has been for ever.

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Mar 21, 01:56 AM
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Posted by: Sam Clare
Comment: #60
"You're the sociopath.
You've got the balls to think that A) you're a trained psychoanalyst, cool smiley you've somehow delved extraordinarily deep into Mr. Obama's psyche simply by watching him, C) you, as an untrained professional, somehow have the right to think that you should be influencing public opinion by spewing this @#$%&."

"I'd love to actually go point by point and tell you why each of your charges is either stupid, untrue, or just unverifiable by anything but theraputic evidence... but I really, really don't feel like it. It would take pages. That's what thoughtful analyses take, pages. Not little definitions out of an old psychology textbook."



Sam, does your therapist know that you are using the computer? You know, you might get in trouble if you are going against the house rules.

Posted by: Sam Clare  
Mar 21, 02:00 AM
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Hah, we're probably the only ones left on here paying attention.

You really are scared of the left, aren't you, if you've lowered your argument to that level




GetAGripIII Wrote:
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> Posted by: Sam Clare
> Comment: #60
> "You're the sociopath.
> You've got the balls to think that A) you're a
> trained psychoanalyst, cool smiley you've somehow
> delved extraordinarily deep into Mr. Obama's
> psyche simply by watching him, C) you, as an
> untrained professional, somehow have the right to
> think that you should be influencing public
> opinion by spewing this @#$%&."
>
> "I'd love to actually go point by point and tell
> you why each of your charges is either stupid,
> untrue, or just unverifiable by anything but
> theraputic evidence... but I really, really don't
> feel like it. It would take pages. That's what
> thoughtful analyses take, pages. Not little
> definitions out of an old psychology textbook."
>
>
>
> Sam, does your therapist know that you are using
> the computer? You know, you might get in trouble
> if you are going against the house rules.

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Mar 21, 02:04 AM
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> How dare you call Senator Obama's speech a fraud?
> When a person has the courage to bar his soul in
> public in an honest and compassionate way, you
> have the termerity to dissect and dismiss the very
> essence of his message - the need to examine the
> racism within each of us. Perhaps it makes you
> uncomfortable to do so. You could learn much from
> Mike Huckabee's response yesterday.

Obama came with his speech forced by the controversy. He was more evasive than accountable.

Posted by: Artemystic  
Mar 21, 02:05 AM
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It makes me sad to see the (lack of useful) dialogue happening here.

Why did Obama give a speech addressing race? Because his opponents and the media were making it an issue. Yes, he did it while running for president. That does not make straight-talk about the topic any less useful.

While other candidates are mud-slinging, name-calling and trying to polarize people, Obama responds not by saying, "Poor me. They're picking on the poor black guy again." Rather he opens a thoughtful dialogue about the situation with race in the country.

So let's look at it.

Fraud:
An intentional perversion of truth; deceitful practice or device resorted to with intent to deprive another of property or other right.

The Clinton campaign calls Jeremiah Wright anti-American and depicts him as a dangerous fringe element. "Ooops... We forgot we invited him to the White House dinner we organized for our nation's religious leaders. Uh-oh... and there are pictures of Bill Clinton shaking his hand with Al Gore standing in the background and Hillary at a nearby table?"

The Clinton campaign circulates the NAFTA news from Canada calling Obama a liar on the days before the OH and TX elections. "Oops... the quote was actually from somebody on our campaign staff and the Obama folks never said anything inconsistent with Obama's stand on NAFTA."

And while campaigning in OH (where industry jobs have been lost overseas) Hillary speaks out against NAFTA saying she wouldn't support it as it is and has always been opposed to it. "Oops... I want to count my husband's time in the White House as part of my experience but not be held to account for what we actually did during that time." "Double Oops... My tour schedule and speaking engagements where I was promoting NAFTA and how great it will be for the country are on record?"

McCain saying he will always stand firm against the use of torture because he's experienced it and knows the depths of its inhumanity. "Oops... You mean for me to play with the big boys and get the endorsement from the White House I have to vote for torture? Okay, torture it is, then."

McCain saying he's for political reform and holding politicitians to account. "Oops... You mean I'm not supposed to use public funds of my office to pay for my fundraising trips?" "Oops... I'll take millions of public campaign funds and then when I reach the spending limit just break the rules and take the RNC money."

After being one of the 5 Senators involved in S & L bailout fraud, he says he'll never abuse the influence of his position again to interfere with regulatory bodies. "Oops... You mean I can't tell the FCC they have to process my lobbyist friend's application by X date?" Then after claiming he never sent the letter to the FCC pushing them for approval. "Double Oops... You have my swown testimony at Senate hearing talking about the contents of the letter I just said I never sent?"

You say Obama is all pretty talk. Read his Blueprint for Change and criticize him on the merits of his plan, rather than blindly saying he doesn't have one.

Many here seem to get their jollies with the name-calling of Obama and saying that he's a fraud. But if you're supporting one of these other corrupt politicians, you really have to wonder who's been drinking the Kool-Aid.

Posted by: Wow!  
Mar 21, 02:08 AM
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The comments on this blog are disgusting!

So, was the analysis... a biased piece of crap (of which I would expect from any one of today's pundits - whether from the left or from the right).

Not a fan of Obama myself... but, to watch a politician ANY politician today speak honestly about major issues -reminds me of a time when our leaders were BETTER and STRONGER than the average countryman. I could see Eisenhower, Lincoln, FDR, or JFK giving this speech (maybe with a bit more panache).

Krauthammer's "analysis" was pure partisan hackery. I am so sick and tired of "ideology as facts" analysis. And it's the same on the left! All I can say, America continues to elect seriously flawed Presidents. Our current is clearly the worst yet (we may never recover), Clinton was a highly ineffective 2-termer, and so it goes....

People... start reading... and critically analyzing our politics and politicians. Because if you don't ... America is in trouble.

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Mar 21, 02:11 AM
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Posted by: Sam Clare
Comment: #64

OK Sam. You are a good sport.
over and out.

Posted by: Scot Douglass  
Mar 21, 02:12 AM
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What I don't understand about Charles and the right is their inability to calibrate their own sense of anger. This whole piece is full of anger--even the title is an angry attack--and yet it is simply over the claim of others who loved Obama's speech. How does that compare to what blacks of Wright's generation truly suffered in almost every aspect of human existence--and it's not as if the playing field has been completely leveled. If the Obama haters (he's phony, a fraud, how dare he be a father and take his children to that church, etc) base the majority of their hatred on how utterly foolish and delusional Obama followers are to believe in his message of hope (when this belief of others does not in any way directly injure them), why can't they understand a black man's anger at the message of hope and the promise of equality that is America when his direct experiences were so contrary to that message?

Posted by: GarrettD  
Mar 21, 02:29 AM
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In reading this, I must say that the guy who wrote this column does not have a deep heart. Yes, Wright was wrong in saying what he did. But the truth still remains; Obama has an intellect and compassionate understanding of the world that rivals Lincoln. There is nothing anyone of us can do, except get angry or agree with this column; which makes me realize there is no point in writing this message.
Also, I seriously doubt there are many people who don't have friends, colleagues, or whomever that you have stuck by and brought into your life who say or behave radically and/or have offensive opinions, but you and I still can't break our emotional bond from them.
I will end this comment like this: IF YOU CARE DEEPLY ABOUT POLITICS, THE SIDE YOU LIKE LOOKS GOLDEN, BUT THE GUYS YOU ARE OPPOSED TO LOOK LIKE SATAN EVEN WHEN THEY SAVE ONE THOUSAND CHILDREN(metaphorically speaking). Afterall, I did love W. after 9/11; it wasn't until the body count in our overseas offensive passed that in the WTC's that I scratched my head and said,"Maybe Bush's understanding is all wrong and I think I should reevaluate my own views."

Posted by: Proud Jew  
Mar 21, 02:38 AM
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To Scot Douglass and other's who share your opinion.... The answer to your question of: "Why can't they understand a black man's anger at the message of hope and the promise of equality that is America when his direct experiences were so contrary to that message?"

What about Jews? Millions of us died because of racism. Let me tell you, we handle it in a much more classy manner. We do not attend synagogues with rabbis who are hate mongers like Rev. Wright, I can assure you.

Rev. Wright's attitude and anyone who shares that continuing racist attitude will just stay in the ghetto for the rest of your lives. Pull your racist thoughts out of the mud for godsakes!

But I digress. The WHOLE point of the matter is, someone like Obama who sat and listened to that crap for more than 20 years must have found it all to be "comfort food", he thought it was okay, and the president of the United States needs to be held to a higher standard than this.

Posted by: andrewfl  
Mar 21, 03:37 AM
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To the author:

You'd be cool with Wright if, instead of bashing white people who had previously oppressed him, he had simply slandered gays. Am I right?


And to Proud Jew:

"Rev. Wright's attitude and anyone who shares that continuing racist attitude will just stay in the ghetto for the rest of your lives."

This is an appalling statement. The people of Wright's church are not from the ghetto, you ignorant twit. Wright and his followers have overcome adversity and worked to improve their lives. They are not piss-poor and stupid, they are generally middle-class and educated.

I'm Jewish as well, and I entirely disagree with you that we handle racism in a classier manner. There are many, many racist Jews. My aunt, who teaches at a synagogue in New York, has explained to me that she will never vote for Obama. Why? Because she doesn't trust him, because he lived in Indonesia. You know, a Muslim country.

Posted by: Franklin, Lake Mary, FL  
Mar 21, 04:04 AM
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This article would have made sense if Obama were not White, well, partly at least. It would also have made sense if Obama were not raised by his white grandparents.

Charles, a man of your background, you could have done better job in your failed attempt to demagoguing this issue and speech. You are rewarded with a D- grade for effort.

Franklin

Posted by: T.W. Simpson  
Mar 21, 04:04 AM
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Dear Mr. Krauthammer,

I have followed your writings for some time and am generally sympathetic to your views, even when I disagree. You usually make incisive critique that calls my attention to arguments and principles I would generally not consider, and consequently I value your commentary as an integral component of intelligent public discourse. I tend to fall on the "liberal" side of a political argument, although like you I have much distaste for the way that term has been semiotically translocated from its original intent. But in this article you have strayed too far from a reasonable mode of common sense that violates the public trust in the function of professional opinion.

I do not usually write this sort of commentary and I doubt you will catch it, but I feel compelled to draw attention to the fact that citizens who take intellectual honesty quite seriously might be dismayed to find an author of your caliber offering punditry that is so thoroughly colored by the author's emotional commitments.

Please take some time to reconsider this issue and challenge yourself to see the opposing perspective with much greater attention to the subtlty and nuance of the appeal. For it is clear that you have not done so here, and such is the least bit of respect some of your readers have offered to you.

Thank you,
T.W. Simpson

Posted by: Franklin, Lake Mary, FL  
Mar 21, 04:09 AM
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Jupiter Wilson Wrote:
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> How dare you call Senator Obama's speech a fraud?
> When a person has the courage to bar his soul in
> public in an honest and compassionate way, you
> have the termerity to dissect and dismiss the very
> essence of his message - the need to examine the
> racism within each of us. Perhaps it makes you
> uncomfortable to do so. You could learn much from
> Mike Huckabee's response yesterday.

I could not have written a better response.

Thank you

Posted by: Kooyong  
Mar 21, 04:12 AM
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You're the fraud, Krauthammer. You masquerade as someone who thinks hard about politics and the nature of American society, when your understandings of it are driven by a shallow outlook that willfully fails to understand the way the slavery and ongoing racism has shaped the experience of blacks in US society. The bigotry of Wright and other black preachers is the bigotry of weak and the excluded, of those struggling to find a language in which to vent their rage. (When, indicidentally, was the last time you wrote a piece about the support given to Bush by rightwing bigots of all sorts, including Limbaugh, or McCain's seeking of Hagey's endorsement or his flip-flopping on Falwell?) There are none so blind as those who will not see. And you are not prepared to think hard enough to notice the extent to which the stupid statements of Wright are the product of deep inequalities and injustices in US society.

Posted by: strongblood  
Mar 21, 04:12 AM
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Charles Krauthammer is a huage fraud. In fact he is more than a fraud. He can't help himself but to remain closed-minded!!! Don't make the mistake of voting for Hillary or McCain. this man, Obama, is manufactured by God for America for such a time as this. We need real help now!!!

So fellow Americans, be careful not to let yourselves be fooled by writers like this man who actually may need a surgery to help him secure an open mind that may help him understand the brilliant, nonpolitical speech given by Senator obama out of a pure heart.

One of the worst mistakes America can make this time is to miss electing Obama President. This man is not black, he’s not white, he’s not green or yellow or whatever. HE IS A GODLY AND HUMBLY SENSITIVE AMERICAN whom God will work with to bless America again. Don’t be surprise that the fuel prices at the pump will soar DOWN to unbelievable price per gallon again, and OPEC will have little or nothing to do with it. God is God when He gets the right person in place. Hillary cannot do it. Obama has to also think doubly twice before choosing Hillary as VP. She might be a source of problems!!! God is setting up America to be healed through this man. I continue to see it this way.
Ohio and hundreds of thousands of voters in Texas have been duped into voting for Mrs. Clinton. Mrs. Clinton duped them with the lies and innuendos on NAFTA and the 3:00 a.m. call. But see--God exposed Clinton on NAFTA lies against Obama. Now it is discovered that she is the one communicating with the Canadian government that the promises she was giving on NAFTA are simply campaign related, designed to gain votes. Well she gained the votes and won. I strongly call on Ohio and Texas voters to chastise Clinton and to demand their votes back!!! This exposure on NAFTA will let you know about what she means when she talks about the 3:00 a.m. phone call. Hillary will not answer that call. If she does, she won't know what to do or she will most probably make the wrong decision, trying to do things just by herself without consultation or she will be worrying and bugged down with "guilts" about what she has done to people. Obama will make very good decisions, and he will make sure to get together with the right people to help him explore necessary alternatives and contingencies. Wake up America and stop being maneuvered by people like Hillary. As someone wrote in the internet, concerning Hillary’s stunt on NAFTA, “When people talk about Hillary's experience, it is this type of stunt they are referring to...i.e., political experience. She's good at the Dark Arts, but that's about it as far as her experience goes.”

Mr. Barack Obama is actually stronger in national security, economy, healthcare, and some of the other issues than either Hillary or McCain. America is at a stage in her life that she needs overhaul. The agent of that overhaul is Obama for such a time as this. His middle name does not matter. He did not give himself the name. He loves everyone, including Israel. What people do not know is that Obama attends one of the strictest Christian denominations that commit very seriously to serving Jesus Christ. Church of Christ is STRICT! A weak Christian cannot attend such a denomination. It is seriously Pentecostal. It is also becoming very clear that Hillary can do or say anything to win while Obama, on the other hand, being a strong Christian, simply does not want to attack Hillary negatively, although he and everyone else knows how to do it. right now, Hillary is striving to mess up the chances of the democratic party in the general election.

NOW Catch this: America cannot be resurrected into vitality and prosperity until significant number of her citizens become energized by the inspiration, wakening, and motivating spirit that God has embedded in Obama for the benefit of America AT THIS TIME. When people are aroused and awake again, then they can work hard and participate together toward believing and making everything work toward strengthening the economy, family, political system, national security, and building healthy and trusting relationships within America and between America and the rest of the world. That's NATIONAL SECURITY! THAT'S ECONOMIC STRENGTH! THAT'S PEOPLE TRUSTING AND BELIEVING IN AMERICA AGAIN! I am a Professof of Business Administration and strategic management for a long time. Obama is what America needs at this time. World leaders will actually respect him much more than others due to his humble spirit but also quiet inner strength! In fact, terrorists will think much-more than twice before they try to attack any American interests with Obama as President. they already have it in their heads that this man cannot play with them. Obama is more humble than Reagan, but he has a tough demeanor similar to Reagan (if not better) that outside world will fear and respect! He will not make many mistakes and he relatively will not waste resources as many American Presidents have done. He will appropriate resources wisely and monitor their use and who uses them, especially in relations to other nations. Many nations trick the United States into sending the dollars; but the dollars have usually been used to accomplish very little. Most dollars are wasted in highly corrupt foreign leaders who claim to be assisting their nations. Such leaders will find it difficult to try to play Obama. There is so much to write, but I will stop here! Feel free to get the Obama campaign to contact me. I will advise them on how to win the general election. Well, one more thing: I strongly advise the Obam campaign to run this ad nationally. I am writing it for them right now---

"..... Shouldn't the President be the one, the only one that is capable of uniting people and solve problems without letting any problem turn into crises? The inspiration, my ability to relate to people instead of using intimidation or fight-posture, and my ability to manage or analyze contingencies and draw necessary conclusions and judgments define domestic and national security for America. Such qualification leads to getting problems solved without heading into crises that will bruise and drain America and wound our economy and every other thing! That's REAL security! That's the REAL experience you need! That's Barack Obama! We don't have to use force when we don't have to use force! If experience leads to consistently bad judgments, then what is that experience? You be the judge! How can somone who does not mind duping Ohio and Texas into voting for her with lies on NAFTA be your President? How can Hillary Clinton be the President of this great nation if her experience is on lies, innuendos, and accusing Obama wrongly for what she herself is doing? She is both Ms and Mrs. Hood Wink Wink and double-talk! Make Hillary pay for Ohio and Texas! Run away from HILLARY! Leave her alone! She is TOO DESPERATE to be the President of this United States of America. Her mind won’t be steady at 3:00 a.m., worrying about all the negative campaigns. I will make the right judgment at 3:00 a.m. given the circumstances of the call! People’s lives are at stake; therefore no one can jump into quick and un-chewed decision without consulting the Presidential cabinet or even the congress or even the American people. Run away from misjudgment. [EVEN the '3 a.m. Ad' Girl Wants Obama to Answer Call. Girl featured in Hillary Clinton's ad actually supports Obama. ABC News - Sun Mar 9, 12:35 PM ET] Make me your President and let us deliver Change We Can Believe In. YES WE CAN!"

Dear America, let us open our eyes and see how God is fighting for this man, Mr. Obama, who is a serious Christian running to become our President. The cheep and deceiving Hillary’s campaign didn’t know that they were using a girl in a campaign who is actually campaigning for Obama right now. That’s how God fights for people who are humble and means well like Obama. That’s how God will fight for America when the right person becomes her commander in Chief. Just read the ABC News excerpt: ----["They were parodying this ad, kind of poking fun at it," Knowles said. "My brother was like, 'Is that Casey?' And we just erupted. Sure enough, it's me." The file footage was originally shot for a railroad company advertisement. The Clinton campaign bought it from Getty Images. Knowles, a senior at Bonney Lake High School who turns 18 next month, has been campaigning for Obama. She attended his rally at Seattle's KeyArena on Feb. 8. Her mother, Pam, told The News Tribune of Tacoma that Casey cried and trembled after shaking the candidate's hand. The next day, she was a Democratic precinct captain for the state's caucuses. If she plays her cards right, she could go to the national convention. Not to mention that she could be in another ad. After her identity became known, Obama's campaign contacted her. "I mentioned that we should make a counter ad, me and Obama, against Hillary," she said. "They thought that was really funny. They actually might take me up on it."

Now you make the judgment. This is Obama’s time for America. Vote for Obama to vote for America’a security, peace, economic prosperity, and political prosperity again!!!!!!!!!! Don’t let selfish and wicked politicians dupe your vote.

Posted by: Harry Salonitis  
Mar 21, 04:15 AM
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I thought the speech was brilliant and genuine. Simply because you don't have
the mental capacity to understand it dosn't make it fraudulent.

Posted by: Graham P  
Mar 21, 04:27 AM
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1) Can you honestly say you haven't written anything that a majority of Americans found "controversial" and hateful , but that your audience and you found insightful and inspiring?
To me you sound like Wright sounds to you. Unreasoning, not understand what motivates the 'other', suspicious, paranoid.

2)You can't understand that community and theology from a few sound bites. Sorry.
"By their fruits you will know them" - Jesus The Christ
Yes those statements Wright made seem wrong to me.
But if the man was preaching hate you would see a church full of hateful people. That is not the reputation of that Church.
And more importantly that is not Obama.

3) If you made JFK explain the words of ever one of his Priest that said the protestants were going to hell he never would have been president. But I guess you would have been happier with Nixon.

4) What is his sin. Not walking out of his communities most active church and watching football at home on Sunday? That would be okay wouldn't it? If he just watched Rambo kill every Sunday. If you still want to say with the crowd "Crucify Him! Crucify Him!" you should pick another day besides Good Friday. Less likely to make him a martyr.

Posted by: Yehoshua  
Mar 21, 04:50 AM
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I have 1 ?. Do whites have reason to feel guilty? The time has come for a change, history is in the making, and please dont talk about fraud without adding the Clintons to the mix, better yet Washington as a whole. I do not think the American People are gullible enough to believe these fear tactics that are being spread accross the news channels. Lets just deal with the issues, War, Health Care, Economy.

Posted by: NorthCarolinaTH  
Mar 21, 04:53 AM
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It is Obama that many moderates see as the fraud. The speech on race was just a slick way of taking the low information voters attention off Rev. Wright and reflecting the focus back on whites for the racial injustices done to blacks by whites in the past. That is just plain old misdirection and manipulation. Now you see Rev. Wright, now you don't. Obama wraps himself in the Bill Of Rights and the Constitution and throws in the Civil War as a bonus.

Obama is a flim flam man and a manipulator at the very least. A total Fraud most likley.

Posted by: nycmale  
Mar 21, 05:02 AM
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Krauthammer's article was more "honest" than Obama's big speech. And that's why Obama's speech will fail among the voters who were angry in the first place. Some of us refuse to feel guilty for thing for which we had no control. Obama's sermon was about the past. If he wants Americans to "move on" then he needs to leave that church. Though, it's probably too late now. We've already seen his first instinct, and it wasn't to unite us all.

Posted by: chris2008  
Mar 21, 05:03 AM
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Great Job!! You nailed it -- Obama wants this to be about race but it is about so much more than that. It's about his judgement for one thing -- and his character.

Posted by: BOB DYLAN II  
Mar 21, 05:10 AM
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Obama talk about a life of brotherly love, be he an't livin it. No way, nohow
There's slow, slow train coming up around the bend.

Posted by: Nate08  
Mar 21, 05:15 AM
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This is nothing but an affirmation of Obama's basic lack of weaknesses. The Clinton machine and the GOP machine have set up a sort of tag team effort to find whatever they can find on the best candidate. Having dug deeply, they have still been unable to really find any negative things about Obama's character that are worth whining about, and have moved to sound bites of his pastor's sermons. If this is the best they can find, Barack's looking pretty good. This article may as well have come from a celebrity gossip magazine...you know, like the ones who promise to show "stars without their makeup!" on the cover, and has about as much substance as such a story. I'm sure there are plenty of these publications hiring.

Posted by: BOB DYLAN II  
Mar 21, 05:24 AM
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The OB man is just tryin to stop the bleeding, but he gonna need a tranfusion after after the old Quaker State.
There's slow, slow train coming up around the bend.

Posted by: James Carville  
Mar 21, 05:24 AM
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This is why we were suckered into a war that never should have been authorized nor waged. We have an inelastic demand to dwell on useless issues because of our discomfort with dwelling on important issues.

A ranting mad priests makes incendiary remarks. Barack has condemned those remarks. Why is that newsworthy for 7 days, when we are not talking about the 5th annivessary of Iraq, recession, and exhorbitant gas prices.

Out 4th estate has become fraudulent!

Posted by: J Chan  
Mar 21, 05:31 AM
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I couldn't agree more. The speech is a fraud (and like all kinds of fraud, there are victims, including those who have no idea that they fall victims). How arrrogant for Obama to give us a lecture on race when he himself has done NOTHING to protect his kids from the incendiary comments and hatred of this dangerously bigoted racist pastor? If Obama can't even discharge this most basic of parental responsibilities, how dare he lecture us on race and tell us that he is the saviour to whom the US voters should turn to for their salvation from racial conflicts? How incredibily insuffereable.




Jupiter Wilson Wrote:
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> How dare you call Senator Obama's speech a fraud?
> When a person has the courage to bar his soul in
> public in an honest and compassionate way, you
> have the termerity to dissect and dismiss the very
> essence of his message - the need to examine the
> racism within each of us. Perhaps it makes you
> uncomfortable to do so. You could learn much from
> Mike Huckabee's response yesterday.

Posted by: TM  
Mar 21, 05:33 AM
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Great speech--signifying what exactly? That the past is not dead and buried and we still live in some version of Faulkners turn of the century Mississippi? That's not a very transcendent approach to the issue of race in this country. I must have missed the part in his speech about how far we've come as a society in the past fifty years. Of course, listening to Rev Wrights sermons you wouldn't know anything has changed at all.

Posted by: J Chan  
Mar 21, 05:37 AM
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Trout : Are you serious that someone who can't even protect his kids from evil every Sunday is the same person from whom you draw your hope ? You serious?



trout Wrote:
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> Senator Obama's speech will go down in history as
> one of the great turning points on this country's
> evolutionary struggle to overcome racial
> predjudice and bigotry. Charles Krauthammer will
> not go down in history at all. He simply parrots
> the bigotry of his kind. And I feel sorry for him,
> because he will never know what it is like to have
> something called hope.
>
> Barack Obama's spoken words are simpe truths, and
> it is the power of these simple truths that his
> "followers" resonate with because they can hear
> it. "It" is a political dog whistle that the
> jaded politically establishment cannot hear. "It"
> will be known and "it" will set us free. "It"
> will certainly not be televised.

Posted by: Lou  
Mar 21, 05:53 AM
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"Words mean something". You have to look at Rev Wright's words--not to mention the emotional whirling dervish of their delivery--not his intentions. I can't discern his intentions because I can't read his mind--and neither can you. I've also been told "the road to hell is paved with good intentions". If the pundits and supporters of Rev Wright can honestly find racial conciliation in the reverend's sermons I would submit their powers of interpretation are truly remarkable.

Posted by: J Chan  
Mar 21, 05:54 AM
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Benfal 476,

You completely missed the point. Assuming you are as intelligent as a Harward-graduated lawyer as Obama. And assume you are (as admitted by Obama) that you have heard some "controversial" remarks of Wright (though Obama was deliberately vague as to what exactly they were). Do you even want to take a risk by taking your kids to that kind of church?

And talking about context, how much context do you really need f or the following propositions by Wright (just to name a few):

1) US invented AIDS for genocide of the colored people
2) the US government knew about the Pearl Harbour attack but didin't do anything and deliberately let many die so as to provide an excuse to wage war on Japan
3) US government spread drug to the black in order to enslave them

Just how much more context do you need?




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> The real fraud is Mr Krauthammer passing himself
> off as a journalist. Yes the 30 second sound bites
> are vile and disgusting and should not have been
> said, but I for one would like to see the entire
> sermons from which they were extracted. I doubt
> if Mr Krauthammer have seen them in their full
> context. I would like to applaud Mr Krauthammer
> for spending every Sunday with the Obama's and
> their kids at church, otherwise how would he know
> or be able to comment on what the Obama kids have
> been listening to in the pews of Trintity. I also
> appreciate Mr Krauthammer's compassion. While
> some are only condemning Obama, Mr Krauthammer is
> worried about his kids. Bull crap. If you are
> going to call yourself a journalist who is given
> the privilege of having the "ear" of America at
> least take the time to do proper research. The
> people of the United States are not as ignorant
> and stupid as you believe Mr Krauthhammer. Stop
> passing off this biased garbage as journalism.
> Just the facts, and when it's opinion at least
> try to base it on fact.

Posted by: fblaze  
Mar 21, 05:59 AM
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Our heroes and those that we admire often fail us, but do we disown them or leave our faith behind? Krauthammer carefully selects his examples, but take others.

America loves its founding fathers such as George Washington. We mythologize him with tales of courage and truth telling. Yet he owned slaves and would not let a woman vote or hold elective office. we do not disown him. We love him historically and allow his name and life to be held up for admiration. Why do we do that? He earned our respect with many good deeds and qualities. Perhaps if Krauthammer knew more about Pastor Wright besides the 5 minutes of controversial statements he might admire him and even go to his church to hear him and pray with him.

Posted by: J Chan  
Mar 21, 06:03 AM
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B Mull,

If you can just provide more context for a better understanding of the proposition that the US government invented AIDS for the genocide of the colored people and justify how that context will provide a more favourable view of Wright, you will be a very successful salesman of Bear Sterns stocks.




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> You didn't do any real research for this column,
> did you Krauthammer? You didn't listen to the
> actual tapes of these sermons so you don't know
> the context of the tired quotations you cite in
> this column.
>
> In fact, as I was reading your piece I realized
> there wasn't one new insight. It's just a rehash
> of the same old vitriol right wing commentators
> have been spewing for days.
>
> Though I shouldn't dignify your piece of crap with
> a rebuttal, let's look at your bottom line: Obama
> shouldn't have taken his kids to that church.
>
> TUCC teaches children:
> --Rejection of BET/Hip Hop culture
> --To learn from living and breathing examples of
> Black professionals who have 'achieved' doing
> something other than dribbling/carrying some sort
> of ball, or shuffling in front of a microphone.
> --That success in America is quite attainable,
> through education and hard work.
> --A sense of self-worth and pride that will make
> them more productive citizens as they grow up.
> --A context about the world in which they live.
> Only by admitting and confronting White Supremacy
> and all the traps that it can set for their
> children, will their children be provided with the
> armor to go forth and succeed in this world.
> --The time honored lesson of ' how to get over'
> that has been passed from generation to generation
> in the Black community.
>
> For the above reasons, TUCC is one of the largest
> congregations of middle- and upper-class Blacks in
> the Chicago area. Those folks aren't lunatics.
>
> This is called research, Krauthammer. Notice how
> it makes you think again about Rev. Wright. In
> fact, if you were an African-American in Chicago
> you'd probably be in the pews this Easter Sunday.

Posted by: Ron Hussein  
Mar 21, 06:11 AM
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Yeah, I saw a backlash coming. We (current society) can't like something for more than 3 days without eventually coming to hate it, it seems. What was cool before is now crap. Burn 'em all, I guess. There is no hope, we're all cynics.

Posted by: PoliticalPuck  
Mar 21, 06:13 AM
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Obama's linking of Geraldine Ferraro with Wright is a low and dirty blow. They are so far apart in racial bias it's not funny. He implied, "Hillary has Geraldine Ferarro as a racist, I have Pastor Wright."

Yesterday (Thursday) the Obama campaign admitted that it had provided a photo of Wright shaking hands with President Clinton to the media that day, as if to say, "Hillary is guilty by association of belonging to his church, too." Bill Clinton posed for thousands of pictures with people when he was president.

Obama uses his own race and associations with his church as a weapon to win votes. Richard Nixon was the last politician we had who would have resorted to those kind of politics.

I confess that Obama is turning me into a conservative. He will become a tragedy for the Democratic Party if he's nominated to run and I don't even want to think what will happen to the country if his honeydew voice and fine looks persuade a majority of voters to win the electoral college in November.

I'm sick of the far right (GW Bush) and the far left (Obama) trying to take the country to the edge of their ideologies. I want someone from the common sense middle to run the country. That's why I think John McCain is the GOP nominee. Let's hope the Democrats run the moderate Hillary Clinton, too.

Posted by: Jojoe  
Mar 21, 06:18 AM
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Dear Mr. Self-Righteous,

I learned from my black grandmother that two wrongs don't make a right. I also learned from her that you do not throw stones when you live in a glass house.

Allow me to remind you that you did not leave the Republican Party when Bill Bennett said that there will be less crime in this country if every single black baby were to be aborted. Maybe you agreed with such statement. In spite of your alleged opposition to abortion and your long-standing love for African Americans like the not-so-nuanced Clarence Thomas, your silence was deafening. Not a single word of condemnation from Charlie, this man of great Moral Compass. Recently, your silence was also eloquent when Geraldine Ferraro made her “insightful” comments about Senator Obama.

Now, surprise, surprise, you have found your voice. You want to blame Senator Obama for not leaving his church and casting the reasons for such decision in "Harvard Law nuances". Envy of his eloquence and his ability to use nuances is a sincere form of flattery from your part.

Condemn all the Republican sins and yes, Democrat sins, with the same vigor that you use to condemn Senator Obama, then, you will have the moral thrust to write the article that you wrote. As much as I hate to tell you out of fear of being in your company, I nevertheless, somehow feel compelled to mention to you that your article had no Community College nuances, much less Harvard Law ones. If Jeremiah Wright were white, he could have written your article since both of you have a distorted view of reality, as articulated brilliantly, by guess who, the man you unconsciously envy, yet openly hate so much, Barack Obama.

Posted by: I'mMe  
Mar 21, 06:24 AM
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Another dumb article... I stopped at the "An interesting, if belated, admission. But the more important question is: which "controversial" remarks?" part....

Journalists like you keep issues going for the sake of controversy... you love that stuff... What does it matter...??

Why??

Posted by: jonnyB  
Mar 21, 06:29 AM
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Excellent work, sir, thank you.
Barack has a soft underbelly of weakness, a moral tolerance for extremists.
Malik Zulu Shabazz loved Barack's speech.
God protect us from these silly "intellectuals" with no intellect who got sucked into Barack's sophistry.
Barack has Farrakhan's vote. Isn't that swell?
Barack has Malik and the New Black Panther Party on his side?
Let's bring them to the White House so we can "unify" the nation. Right. Sure.

Barack created a dangerous pattern of letting fanatics get away with awful ideas.
One site, TPM, has become a haven for these idiotic ideas.
One post was: "In defense of Wright".
There is NO defense for Wright.
He and Farrkhan went to Libya in 84 to pay homage to Kadafi.
There is a trifecta that Barack must have known about before he even joined his church.
Barack has no courage, no moral courage or he would leave Wright, Farrakhan and Malik in the rear view mirror.
Barack is now scary.

Posted by: Robert Tilden  
Mar 21, 06:40 AM
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Barak Obama is not senceer with his motives. He did not chose to have a debate about race, this was forced apon him. His first choice was to be above race. Whenever race was brought up the reflex from the Obama camp was to accuse others of being RACIST. And yet, now it turns out we are all racists. Why should I vote for Obamas racist record over any other racist candidate. Obama turns out to be same ol same ol.
Only difference is that McCain has a record of being bi-partizan and a patriot distinces himself from contravercial figures or people who come out with contraversial remarks. To paraphrase from Rev Write: McCain gave to his country, McCain reaches out to ALL American, Obama can never say that, Obama has never done more than talk, Obama has never been called a hero.

Posted by: Edward Holman  
Mar 21, 06:46 AM
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Well you better get used to it. If Clinton cannot take him down with mud and Radio direct fire continues to be inneffective, McCain will have to go negative once he hits the general cycle. So far, it appears he somehow gains strength with each low blow. Translation - this country is angry with the present crowd. If timing holds, the present crop of bureaucrats may look like they were shot out of a CANNON!

I remember when Cassius Clay fought Sonny Liston. If Liston ever hnit him with any of those roundhouse bunker busters, Clay would have cleared the ropes on his way out of the ring. But Cassius Clay seemed to be on a different plane. A different dimension. He was in a different fight.

Posted by: DLT  
Mar 21, 06:56 AM
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Great article. Obama is very immature! He does not have the leadership skills needed to be President of the United States of America.

Posted by: TonyP  
Mar 21, 07:02 AM
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Thank God for Charles Krauthammer and Thomas Sowell!!

Posted by: JD  
Mar 21, 07:04 AM
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Sen. Obama need sbetter advice. His pastor should be Bill Cosby.

Posted by: JD  
Mar 21, 07:05 AM
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Sen. Obama needs better advice. His pastor should be Bill Cosby.

Posted by: MaryMary  
Mar 21, 07:12 AM
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Charles:

I always read your column for great analysis and comments. As usual, you do not disappoint!

Posted by: unaffiliated  
Mar 21, 07:16 AM
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If history has taught us nothing else, it is that good men cannot sit there quietly listening to the hateful rantics of a lunatic - Germany, 1930s. Obama didn't learn that lesson. He is unqualified to lead for that reason alone.

Posted by: moderate/dem  
Mar 21, 07:29 AM
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I agree with the article and am glad to see someone put the speech in perspective, but what do I know; I'm just a typical white person.

Posted by: Bill Ohio  
Mar 21, 07:33 AM
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Graham
Falwell
Roberts
Hagee

You sir and your ilk are hypocrites.

The double standard use is a perfect example of the differing standards depending on the race of the speaker. You cannot deny the accepted influene of the men listed above and their "reasons" for 9/11, and Katrina.

Here is one more thought, while I don't share the opinion on AIDs, remember this.

In 1972, while Mecury Morris and Bob Greese were leading the Miami Dolphins to the "perfect season", Black people were learning of the Tuskegee project that tricked black men into remaining untreated for Syhphllis by misleading them into thinking they were receiving treatment (spreading it to their wives and children as chronic syphillis) from 1939 -1972. For many black leaders who would have been 25-35 years old then, the idea that the US governmnt exposing black people to a contagious disease is not such a crazy idea.

Visit the CDC (US Center for Disease Control) to learn more, they finally admitted it in 1975.
[www.cdc.gov]

Posted by: RC  
Mar 21, 07:34 AM
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Thank you Mr. Krauthhammer. I thought Obama's speech was stunningly manipulative. I enjoyed Obama's speeches in the past, but this one turned me cold.

I didn't care that Obama attended the church, I cared that he didn't leave. I wouldn't have cared if it took him 15 years to leave, but leave. And definitely do not make the deliberate decision to raise your daughters in this very same church.

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Mar 21, 07:34 AM
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Harry Salonitis Wrote:
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> I thought the speech was brilliant and genuine.
> Simply because you don't have
> the mental capacity to understand it dosn't make
> it fraudulent.


It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see through Obama's effort (i.e. his so called epic racial speech) to save his political behind. He claims to be an agent of change yet his sat in a pew for 20 years and listened to the racist, anti-white, anti-American rantings of his preacher and DID NOTHING to change the very church he claims to care deeply about. If he could not, or would not, change his church over two decades why should we believe he can change a country?

Posted by: gerald h. abrams  
Mar 21, 07:40 AM
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Reverend Wright served in the marines and served President Johnson. For forty years he helped
the poor, the sick and needy. He grew up during Jim Crow days. You sit on your lofty perch
and you cannot understand his anger or his feeelings. Christions are supposed to believe in
redemption and finding good in people. You apparently do not believe in Christian values.
We need to reach out to angry people of all races. listen to their pain and work with them.
By the way didn't a white minister claim that 9/ll was a punishment for our sins.

You support a war where many, many people have been killed with no end in sight.
A war with no end in sight. There is a play in new york, written in the exact words
of the politicians who pursued the spanish-american war and then fought the
filipino rebellion. Their words are exactly the words we hear today. Because
you join in this war, by association, am i to conclude that you are a murderer.

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Mar 21, 07:47 AM
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Ron Hussein Wrote:
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> Yeah, I saw a backlash coming. We (current
> society) can't like something for more than 3 days
> without eventually coming to hate it, it seems.
> What was cool before is now crap. Burn 'em all, I
> guess. There is no hope, we're all cynics.


Don't blame us for being disappointed in Obama. He claimed to be the cure for all our ills. Turns out he is just another hypocritical, self serving politician. He set a the bar for us to measure himself very high knowing all along he could never reach it. How can he change an entire country when he never even bothered to try and change his own church in over twenty years?

Posted by: JD  
Mar 21, 07:52 AM
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If I saw Obama walking down the street, I would move cross over.

I am afraid of what he and the left loons are going to do to this country.

Be very afraid!

Posted by: Fan of Wright  
Mar 21, 08:04 AM
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I'm a white middle class male. I'm not a huge Obama supporter because he is not anti-war and anti-corporate culture enough for me. I do support Jeremiah Wright and share many of his views. The US has sent servicemen off to die in wars while rich CEO's earn millions for 50 years now. Our "greatest generation" fought nazism in Europe while IBM and Ford made profits helping Hitler build his war machine. Now we send our soldiers to die in Iraq while Cheney hands gazillion dollar projects to his business associates. WTF?

When Jeremiah Wright says "god @#$%& America" he means "god @#$%& the political / corporate complex that uses endless war as a cornerstone of its business plan. Of course those responsible for crafting this foreign policy share responsibility for the violence that our enemies plot against us.

God bless America when we restore democracy to our hemisphere and our government serves the people and not the corporation.

Posted by: Ohio Independent  
Mar 21, 08:05 AM
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Sir,

The men listed below were widely condemned for their remarks. Also, to my knowledge, Senator McCain isn't a member of their churches. If you want to compare McCain's relationship to these men to that of Obama and his pastor, it is a weak argument. You could make a better argument that the relationship is similar to the relationship Obama had with the member of the Weathermen who attempted to bomb the Pentagon. That's guilt by association. And one can argue that Obama's relationship with this figure was more intimate that John McCain's relationship to any of these pastor's listed below.

The problem again, with Obama, is that he stayed in the church. He is an elected official who also represented white Americans in Chicago but he freely chose to stay in a church that condemned them. He freely chose to raise his daughters in this church even as he admits that the pastor's thinking was offensive and wrong. He freely chose to put Wright on his leadership committee. He freely chose to name his book after a sermon that Wright gave, which interestingly enough, was also inflammatory. He freely chose to make Wright his spiritual mentor.

Do you really believe that Obama's choices represents someone with character and judgement?






Bill Ohio Wrote:
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> Graham
> Falwell
> Roberts
> Hagee
>
> You sir and your ilk are hypocrites.
>
> The double standard use is a perfect example of
> the differing standards depending on the race of
> the speaker. You cannot deny the accepted
> influene of the men listed above and their
> "reasons" for 9/11, and Katrina.
>
> Here is one more thought, while I don't share the
> opinion on AIDs, remember this.
>
> In 1972, while Mecury Morris and Bob Greese were
> leading the Miami Dolphins to the "perfect
> season", Black people were learning of the
> Tuskegee project that tricked black men into
> remaining untreated for Syhphllis by misleading
> them into thinking they were receiving treatment
> (spreading it to their wives and children as
> chronic syphillis) from 1939 -1972. For many
> black leaders who would have been 25-35 years old
> then, the idea that the US governmnt exposing
> black people to a contagious disease is not such a
> crazy idea.
>
> Visit the CDC (US Center for Disease Control) to
> learn more, they finally admitted it in 1975.
> [www.cdc.gov]

Posted by: Ritt Momney  
Mar 21, 08:06 AM
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Obama took the mirror that was held up to him, turned it on us and tried to blind us with it. Thanks to Krauthammer for being the lone commentator to get the con game completely.

Posted by: stoptheleft  
Mar 21, 08:10 AM
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Excellent analysis by Krauthammer. Obama's speech, if nothing else, showed who he really is.
All his pontificating about hope and equality is a fraud, the man's soul is reflected in his the
teachings of his pastor. He's so used to hear those hateful rantings that he asked "Everyone has
heard their pastor say things they don't agree with", meaning the same sorts of things. My answers is, "No, we have not". The only things my pastors ever said that I didn't agree with were theological
in nature. Had my pastor ever uttered bile like Obama's pastor, I guarantee that the whole congregation would have walked out. Obama's thin fake mask is cracking, revealing a man who
either thinks that in order to be considered black enough by the black community has to associate himself with extremists like Wright, making him a phony, or someone who really believes that
type of hatemongering, in which case we have no use for such a president.

Posted by: Bob in Virginia  
Mar 21, 08:13 AM
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Interesting thesis. However, it should be clear to any critical reader that your anger and frustration is not with Senator Obama and it is not even with Rev Wright. It is with a Black Church. The problem with your arguement is that you failed to establish your qualifications to make such an arguement. For example, you should have told us how familiar you are with the culture of a Black Church. Having done so, you would then be qualified to ask the questions you pose. By not establishing that you have familiarity, you have disclosed that you are merely an unenlighted critique and therefore not a valuable contributor to a very important discussion. With appropriate experience it is highly possible for your cognitive map to adapt to the realities of todays world. Good luck!

Posted by: Ritt Momney  
Mar 21, 08:18 AM
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Bob in Virginia, that is the funniest parody of genuine academia gibberish I have ever heard! Absolutely nothing in your post makes any sense, and every phrase is a polished gem of satire. You rock!

Posted by: Ritt Momney  
Mar 21, 08:21 AM
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Zap, do you think I'm more of a Jew racist or a typical white man? Oy vey, I'm so gosh darn conflicted!

Posted by: zap  
Mar 21, 08:23 AM
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Happy Now, America? The Media what a great job you have done and in a few years you wonder why your country is going down the drain. Why the rest of the world hate you.


The Answers are right with you? You glorify perverts, adore controversy, love distortion, reward hypocrisy, accept shallow ideas and opinions.. the list goes on and on.

Someone gave you a deep thoughtful and remarkable speech that is been revered, treasured and reviewed around the world and all you guys rant about is why did He listen and allow his kids listen to Rev. Wright., why he didn’t disown him.
Yet you wonder why Bill Gates goes to India to look for intelligent workers and your Pentagon awards your mighty defense contract to France … you morons.

Listen, you guys are lossing you stance in the world… The world is smarter not to follow the lead of fools.

Posted by: Surelock Homes  
Mar 21, 08:26 AM
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You can tell this was a sound article by the weakness of those comments that disagree with it.

Posted by: rudder  
Mar 21, 08:26 AM
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> Graham
> Falwell
> Roberts
> Hagee

and Wright

There all the same

Posted by: zap  
Mar 21, 08:27 AM
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Happy Now, America? The Media what a great job you have done and in a few years you wonder why your country is going down the drain. Why the rest of the world hate you.
The Answers are right with you? You glorify perverts, adore controversy, love distortion, reward hypocrisy, accept shallow ideas and opinions.. the list goes on and on.
Someone gave you a deep thoughtful and remarkable speech that is been revered, treasured and reviewed around the world and all you guys rant about is why did He listen and allow his kids listen to Rev. Wright., why he didn’t disown him.
Yet you wonder why Bill Gates goes to India to look for intelligent workers and your Pentagon awards your mighty defense contract to France … you morons.
Listen, you guys are lossing you stance in the world… The world is smarter not to follow the lead of fools.

Posted by: Ritt Momney  
Mar 21, 08:28 AM
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"Charles Kraathammer beacuse for you this happen that's why your @#$%& is on wheelchair"

I thought it was because he was a Jew racist!

Zap, quite an erudite fellow.

Posted by: Historybuff  
Mar 21, 08:28 AM
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Another excellent analysis by Mr. Krauthammer.

Years ago, I left the UCC church because it was too liberal, and I did not want my children raised in that manner. For my family, it was the right thing to do.

Mr.Krauthammer raises essentially the same question for Obama that I had to answer; If a Parent truly believes that a pastor is wrong, then you leave that church for the sake of your children and find another.

Obama did not leave that Church; Therefore, it is quite obvious to me that Obama did not have a problem with the preachings of Pastor Wright; If we choose Obama, we are also choosing Pastor Wright's influence on Obama.

Posted by: Mr. S.  
Mar 21, 08:28 AM
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Well said Charles. For those that seem to swwon on the speech...it is not what Wright said that matters in the end, because they are not Barak's words, BUT...WHY did Barak not have the courage to say or do something about this so called anger within the black community for 20+ years !!! It is all fine and dandy to come up with an eloquent speech, but he still never addressed the basic question which forced him to make the speech he made. If he had made this speech 10-15-20 years ago and then followed up with some action towards bringing the racial divide closer, then yes this man could be deemed Presidential or whatever title one wants to give him. but what he has shown is this:

NO JUDGEMENT / BAD JUDGEMENT
NO LEADERSHIP
COWARDICE for not having the guts to speakup when he had the opportunity to do so for 20 years. Doing only when political necessity required it.

Shameful poolitician this Barak.

Posted by: Ritt Momney  
Mar 21, 08:30 AM
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It was a political speech designed to change the subject from HIM to US. It backfired. As a separate speech about race, it may have merits. But that wasn't its purpose. It was change the focus away from my contradictions, not change we can trust.

Posted by: zap  
Mar 21, 08:32 AM
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Why y0u people take a time and go listen tp what Mike huckabee ahve to say about Dr wright


[mikehuckabee2012.blogspot.com]

Posted by: Marie  
Mar 21, 08:36 AM
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Senator Obama clearly told you why he isn't disowning Rev. Wright. The man is like family to him. I'm not sure why it's so hard for people to understand that you can still have a strong relationship with someone even though you may vehemently disagreee with them on issues. There is much more to the relationship than those issues. Do you not have any relationships like that in your lives? I certainly do.

In his speech he's trying to tell you where he's coming from. You may not like it, you may not agree with it, but you are definitely wrong to say he's a fraud. The speech was clearly very genuine.

Posted by: zap  
Mar 21, 08:37 AM
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Charles Kraathammer and Ritt Mommey Americans like you can no longer think outside of the box. This race for president of the USA is much larger than the seat itself. The rest of the world is watching a bunch of hillbilly racists rant and rave over their own shameful past. The world knows the ugliness of America's past. The rest of the world reads, researches, and study, which makes them more intelligent than you. All you do is rant and rave in your stupidity while you are being led by gready and sleazy politicians and media outlets, who by the way get richer off of your stupidity. Ask the Bush/Cheney group about your stupidity and their advances as a result of it.

Wright has every right to be angry with you. He watched his people suffer for years at the hands of your forefathers, and now you. Take a step back, if you can. Wright served this country honorably as a US Marine who was also a nurse for President Johnson, while Blacks in this country were treated like animals.
Their children were not allowed to sit in a movie theater, unless they were in the balcony; they were not allowed the front entrances of their white doctor's office; they had to use colored toilets that were in the back of the buildings; they had to use colored water fountains that were steps away from white only fountains; they were called names that should never be uttered from the mouths of humans; they had segregated schools and were issued outdated books that were once used by white children; their children had to walk to school, while buses filled with white children raced pass them threw rocks at them and called them names, like monkies and apes; they could not attend state funded colleges and universities yet they were funded by black tax money as well, and you ignorant and arrogant racists are upset with Wright and call him racists.

Wright is a victim of his ugly and shameful past, which is he past your forefathers created. Now, where is your shame? You have none, because you use Wright's truth to fight lies. The truth is America should be @#$%& by God for it's racist and inhuman treatements of a people who were stolen from their homelans, separated from their families, and forced into slavery by YOU.

Should Wright be condemed by Obama? I don't think so. Should Wright be condemed by Obama? I don't think so. While Obama hasn't experienced the shameful ABUSES of slavery, he has the understanding and intelligence to comprehend it and the spirit to fell compassion for a people who he shares 50% of a bloodline with.
Obama takes that shame and ugliness and empoweers Americans black and white to look back, acknowledge, understand, forgive, and move forward to create a new America.....................the change we all can and should believe in. His dialogue was from an adult to adults.
You have every right to choose your choice in this race for the office of president, but you have no right to choose that candidate based on race, when race issues were created by white people. Should God @#$%& America? Should be asking God to forgive us of our sins and please do not @#$%& America. Or should we continue to call Dr. Wright a racist preacher? ,

Posted by: Jeremy20  
Mar 21, 08:42 AM
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More shameless journalism. On top of writing an op-ed you use slandarous language starting with the title.

Posted by: E. D.  
Mar 21, 08:42 AM
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Small thoughts, small man.

Posted by: E. D.  
Mar 21, 08:45 AM
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Small thoughts from a small man. Your cynicism has poisoned your pen, Krauthheimer.

Posted by: Nicholas Arnold  
Mar 21, 08:47 AM
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paul94611 Wrote:
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> Charles,
> Here are the lyrics to the hymn sung at the
> Republican debate in Sept. 2007. This was a public
> event broadcast to millions of people and reflect
> the sentiments to which you and millions of angry
> whites subscribe.
> So much for your honest look at religion &
> politics in America.
> By perpetuating your views you are providing aid &
> comfort to those religious extremists that say
> America is a land of religious oppression.
> Especially when they point to pastors that preach
> America suffered 9-11 and our combat dead &
> wounded because we, as the lyrics point out,
> turned our back on God.
> I can only surmise that you and many millions of
> American's believe that the Islamic extremist
> adversaries our nation faces are in fact soldiers
> for God, doing his work here on earth bringing
> forth gods admonishment on our Godless nation.
>
> Why should God bless America?
> She’s forgotten he exists
> And has turned her back
> On everything that made her what she is
>
> Why should God stand beside her
> Through the night with the light from his hand?
> God have mercy on America
> Forgive her sin and heal our land
>
> The courts ruled prayer out of our schools
> In June of ‘62
> Told the children “you are your own God now
> So you can make the rules”
> O say can you see what that choice
> Has cost us to this day
> America, one nation under God, has gone astray
>
> Why should God bless America?
> She’s forgotten he exists
> And has turned her back on everything
> That made her what she is
>
> Why should God stand beside her
> Through the night with the light from his hand?
> God have mercy on America
> Forgive her sins and heal our land
>
> In ‘73 the Courts said we
> Could take the unborn lives
> The choice is yours don’t worry now
> It’s not a wrong, it’s your right
>
> But just because they made it law
> Does not change God’s command
> The most that we can hope for is
> God’s mercy on our land
>
> Why should God bless America?
> She’s forgotten he exists
> And has turned her back on everything
> That made her what she is
>
> Why should God stand beside her
> Through the night with the light from his hand?
> God have mercy on America
> Forgive her sins and heal our land
>
> Lyrics that every republican presidential
> candidate sung and swayed to.
> Thank you Charles for your invaluable assistance
> in helping millions of American's understand
> exactly what is at stake in this election cycle.

To Paul,
What is so controversial about saying that men who turn from God don't deserve His mercy? Last I checked, that was what nearly every Christian denomination preached. Perhaps you just don't go to church? Also, most Christians believe that if God is angry at a given nation, he often just lets them shoot themselves in the foot rather than calling in outsiders. For instance, he may just let them elect a certain unpatriotic candidate with a love of justifying the hateful remarks of other people and who voted against his own policies last week because they would cost us more (financially speaking) then the Iraq war. Now where have I seen one of those lately........?

Posted by: Ritt Momney  
Mar 21, 08:47 AM
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The truth hurts. Unable to refute the comments, attack the messenger. Small thoughts, indeed.

Posted by: Sugar Magnolia  
Mar 21, 08:58 AM
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Mr. Obama poked fun at himself at the Gridiron Club in 2006 with his current chief strategist, David Axelrod, and his communications director, Robert Gibbs. “I’ve been very blessed,” Mr. Obama told the crowd assembled in March 2006. “Keynote speaker at the Democratic convention. The cover of Newsweek. My book made the best-seller list. I just won a Grammy for reading it on tape. Really, what else is there to do?” he said, his smile now broad. “Well, I guess I could pass a law or something.”

He was running for president even as he was still getting lost in the Capitol’s corridors.

Now, Obama spends his spare time writing manipulative speeches to cover up for all his lies. I cringe when I think of one of Obama's answers during the debate when he said he was not particulary good with paperwork and that he depends on assistants to filter through that stuff. My God, that frightens me! Almost more than his love and and undying supoort for the nutso Rev. Wright.

I am so glad Obama is able to dream on at the expense of the American people. For this reason, I just donated more $$ to Hillary Clinton's campaign.

Posted by: Carol in Austin  
Mar 21, 09:01 AM
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Excellent article - you are absolutely correct. The American public is delusional if they think Obama is something new.

Posted by: Munk  
Mar 21, 09:02 AM
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People! Listen! Rev. Wright did not specifically make any racist remarks against White people. However, he slammed our government. Somehow, his statements against the government is being spun into racist remarks against White people. This is the same technique the media used against MLK, only to lionize him after he was assasinated. Charles is part of that old media way of thinking. Good thing we now have the internet.

Posted by: Jerry H.  
Mar 21, 09:05 AM
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I'm glad to see a few ,and I mean a very few,in the media finally hold Obama just as responsible for his actions & words as the rest of the candidates.I have always been a true Independent and very proud of it.These days I'm sure it's hard to be a proud Republican,But much harder to be a proud Demacrat.Oh,by the way,God BLESS America.

Posted by: Bill Ohio  
Mar 21, 09:06 AM
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Ohio,

Perhaps you confused my post with someone elses. At no time do I mention McCain. My point was that the people I mentioned were considered "spirtiual advisors" to numerous presidents, said simular things and yet no one asked that the president or canidate in question disown them. The point was a simple one, we have a double standard.

I would also argue that at least Obama has the courage to be consistent. McCain (since you bring him up) was very critical of the role of those people I mention in 2000, yet has embrased them in 2008. Politico....

Ohio Independent Wrote:
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> Sir,
>
> The men listed below were widely condemned for
> their remarks. Also, to my knowledge, Senator
> McCain isn't a member of their churches. If you
> want to compare McCain's relationship to these men
> to that of Obama and his pastor, it is a weak
> argument. You could make a better argument that
> the relationship is similar to the relationship
> Obama had with the member of the Weathermen who
> attempted to bomb the Pentagon. That's guilt by
> association. And one can argue that Obama's
> relationship with this figure was more intimate
> that John McCain's relationship to any of these
> pastor's listed below.
>
> The problem again, with Obama, is that he stayed
> in the church. He is an elected official who also
> represented white Americans in Chicago but he
> freely chose to stay in a church that condemned
> them. He freely chose to raise his daughters in
> this church even as he admits that the pastor's
> thinking was offensive and wrong. He freely
> chose to put Wright on his leadership committee.
> He freely chose to name his book after a sermon
> that Wright gave, which interestingly enough, was
> also inflammatory. He freely chose to make Wright
> his spiritual mentor.
>
> Do you really believe that Obama's choices
> represents someone with character and judgement?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Bill Ohio Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Graham
> > Falwell
> > Roberts
> > Hagee
> >
> > You sir and your ilk are hypocrites.
> >
> > The double standard use is a perfect example of
> > the differing standards depending on the race
> of
> > the speaker. You cannot deny the accepted
> > influene of the men listed above and their
> > "reasons" for 9/11, and Katrina.
> >
> > Here is one more thought, while I don't share
> the
> > opinion on AIDs, remember this.
> >
> > In 1972, while Mecury Morris and Bob Greese
> were
> > leading the Miami Dolphins to the "perfect
> > season", Black people were learning of the
> > Tuskegee project that tricked black men into
> > remaining untreated for Syhphllis by misleading
> > them into thinking they were receiving
> treatment
> > (spreading it to their wives and children as
> > chronic syphillis) from 1939 -1972. For
> many
> > black leaders who would have been 25-35 years
> old
> > then, the idea that the US governmnt exposing
> > black people to a contagious disease is not such
> a
> > crazy idea.
> >
> > Visit the CDC (US Center for Disease Control)
> to
> > learn more, they finally admitted it in 1975.
> > [www.cdc.gov]

Posted by: JWilson  
Mar 21, 09:08 AM
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Let's look at the root of all of this. For those who are reasonable, I ask that you ask a simple question of yourselves.

Is it fair to judge a man's career, ideals, and beliefs based on 45 seconds of video? Yes or no? Is it fair to judge those, based on 45 seconds of video, with whom he has association? That's the root question, and one that we need to consider when we come to the ultimate logical conclusion.

We're sheep.

We get 45 hand-picked snippits of video by which we're instructed to judge a man, and told to judge not only him, but his association.

And we do it.

45 seconds worth of video from 3,000 hours of taped sermon, and we're to take the leap that this 45 seconds is representative.

And yup. We do it.

Even though we now have hundreds of media representatives, research operatives, surrogates, and special interest party members scouring 25 years of video to show that these snippits are representative, they haven't been able to give us so much as another fart's worth of support. Nor have any of these hundreds of motivated parties been able to show us that Obama was actually in the pew while any racist or anti-American commentary was uttered. Nothing.

What would certainly be one of the biggest news stories in 50 years sits untouched?

"Obama Lied!"

"Obama In Pews While Pastor Makes Stupid Comments!"

"Democratic Voters Justified In Panicking About Black Guy!"

"Impending World Domination by Black Panthers Confirmed!"

I would submit that had I been provided with 25 years worth of video from any of you at work, I could very, very easily take that footage, and slap it down to 45 seconds worth, and paint you as the worst racist, anti-American, bunny-rabbit-hating, elderly-person-tazing, nazi, lesbian troglodyte the world has ever seen.

Then I could distribute that video, and show the world it is representative of who you are.

Then, most importantly, I'll ask every viewer to look only at that 45 seconds, then judge your brother-in-law.

Stop being freakin' sheep, people. Please. The reality is that Trinity HAS white members. Did you know that? Did you take a second to find out? Did you know that Trinity actually buses, on their dime, disadvantaged children from South Chicago to listen to sermons? Did you know that most of them are white or latino? No? Did you take a second to find out?

This is all akin to being engaged to a woman you think you might be able to stay with for the rest of your life, but you're not sure. A week before the wedding you find out one of her friends got drunk and said something mean about you. You pounce on the opportunity. Your cold feet justifies that you can use this to do what your fear tells you you should. You dump her, and call her a horrible person.

If you don't like the guy, don't vote for him. But for God's sakes do not act like the rest of the sheep, and spread "he's a racist", "he hates America" paranoia for those who are ready to follow anything.

It's inherently unfair, unfounded, childish, and irresponsible.

Without any support or realistic logic, you're reacting in precisely the manner you're supposed to. In the manner in which you were instructed. And that's sad.

Baaaaaa.

Posted by: gfohio  
Mar 21, 09:10 AM
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Wright never claimed moral satisfaction with 9/11.

This is simply an inaccurate argument with falacies laced throughout.

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Mar 21, 09:10 AM
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Posted by: Marc Anthony  
Mar 21, 09:13 AM
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Are you guys real? What makes you think you are in a position to judge this issue having only listened to what the mainstream media and this idiot have told you?

MIKE HUCKABEE, AMERICAS PASTOR, DEFENDS REV. JEREMIAH WRIGHT

[www.huffingtonpost.com]

and

[www.politico.com]

AND

[baldeagle08.wordpress.com]

My God all of you are sheep. Just because you are a republican or support Hillary doesn't mean you can run with the moment and spew crap like this about Obama. Stop acting like you all are pundits and start trying to become them by doing research. It's not that hard.

The fact is this was a crucial speech that will echo across time, and people who are against Obama now are trying to curb its effects. I am Jewish and I cannot wait to see Obama in office, a president who will restore word-wide respect for America (its true people if this were the whole world voting he'd win in a landslide)

To defend Ferraro's statements is to perpetuate the racial divide in this country, and to assume Rev. Wright is a nazi is to close your mind to any possible reconciliation. Do I believe the U.S. government invented AIDS? no. Do I believe blacks have a right to be angry? Hells yeah. If you listen to the whole sermon, Rev. Wright, who's "chickens coming home to roost" was a quote from a white ambassador (Peck), makes a lot of sense.

I'm Jewish, I live in an extremely Jewish county, and my county along with me supported Obama and gave him the majority vote in our county when he came through. Grow up people. You cannot be afraid of speeches because they are good, or change because it seems impossible. Since when was anything impossible for america? This is the greatest country in the world, and jut because you accuse the man who should lead it of being to rhetorical doesn't mean he is. He certainly has more to back up his claims than Hillary (again do research people, Ireland = myth, Kosovo = myth, First Lady = NAFTA)

YES WE CAN!

Posted by: Pennsylvania Beer Man  
Mar 21, 09:14 AM
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Charles,

I was going to vote against Obama because of the nonsense and hateful ignorance from his former pathetic preacher. However, I have noticed a spin job being done by the "Right which seems to be very "Wright" which is wrong.

I understand Martin Luther King was as critical of the US as Wright on many occassions - the reality is we have a painful history and I believe half white half black Obama has a better feel for what ails us and can probably do as good a job as any in moving the nation forward.

I will vote for Barack because I know my vote for him will not be for Wright - just as a vote for McCain will not be for the anti-Catholic, hateful racist John Hagee whose votes McCain has sought. When will you write an article demanding that McCain denounce/renounce/reject John Hagee.

You and others like you have actually helped me to switch to Obama - ENOUGH of this bull.

Posted by: Dao  
Mar 21, 09:15 AM
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The more media digs and nags at Obama about race issue, it's becoming more apparent what Obama's views are on race. Yesterday on PA radio show interview, Obama stated that his grandmother is a "typical white person". Watch the CNN coverage on that news on following link or search for "typical white person" on youtube.

[www.youtube.com]

For someone who's supposed to transcend race, I would like ask what is a "typical white person"?

Posted by: zap  
Mar 21, 09:16 AM
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Hannity caught supporting a neo natzi.Go check it out

[www.youtube.com]

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Mar 21, 09:16 AM
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Wright did not say these things in passing, in a closed room, just a few times. These words were offered up as the Gospel of Jesus, in a well thought out sermon to millions of people live and on tape. A minister is weighed heavy by his collar and the damnable offense of leading his flock into heresy. His words must reflect the will of God and, if they do not, he could a tool of Satan, misinforming the flock for the purposes of hate.
Besides, people that expose their children to racism, segregation, blame, hate, profanity, and all those things that have not come out yet, are not fit parents. Would CPS not remove the children of white people that took their kids to KKK, Nazi, and skin head rallies full of vitriolic anti-American, racist, hate speech? Where's the liberals when you need them? This is one of the areas I agree with them: Protect children from incompetent parents.
When will the IRS enforce it's rules for using churches for political purposes? This church owes Hillary an apology and millions of dollars. Wright owes my white mother an apology. she is a saint. He owes my black best friend for the hurt he has caused her. He owes me nothing.
I just his words don't make some people to start doing stupid things.

Posted by: Ronald Dumsfeld  
Mar 21, 09:17 AM
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Well...well...well. Charles Krauthammer...just another in the long line of Fox News attack dogs...Chris Wallace, Juan Williams, Fred Barnes, Brian Kilmeade, Bill O'Riely and the biggest idiot of them all...Sean Hannity.

Charles, this is the stupiest analysis I've ever seen.

As far as Fox goes, tune in at anytime during 2010 and we'll still be seeing clips of Pastor Wright.

Posted by: zap  
Mar 21, 09:18 AM
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Dao obama answer that on Larry king yesterday, saying because of crime that's why she acted that way. Cut you bull man
Where you people came from ?

Posted by: tiredinnevada  
Mar 21, 09:18 AM
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Charley needs to play the Match Game

I know he will get one right here..

Match the speaker with the stated reason for the cause of 9/11

The Speakers:

A. Senator James Mountain "Jim" Inhofe R-Okla
B. The Late Rev Jerry Falwell
C. Ron Paul R-Tx
D. Rev Wright

The Quotes:

1. We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye. We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America's chickens are coming home to roost.

2. They attack us because we've been over there; we've been bombing Iraq for 10 years. We've been in the Middle East -- I think Reagan was right. We don't understand the irrationality of Middle Eastern politics. So right now we're building an embassy in Iraq that's bigger than the Vatican. We're building 14 permanent bases. What would we say here if China was doing this in our country or in the Gulf of Mexico? We would be objecting. We need to look at what we do from the perspective of what would happen if somebody else did it to us.

3. The ACLU’s got to take a lot of blame for this. ... And I know that I’ll hear from them for this. But, throwing God out successfully with the help of the federal court system, throwing God out of the public square, out of the schools. The abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked. And when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make God mad. I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way - all of them who have tried to secularize America - I point the finger in their face and say: “You helped this happen.””

4. One of the reasons I believe the spiritual door was opened for an attack against the United States of America is that the policy of our Government has been to ask the Israelis, and demand it with pressure, not to retaliate in a significant way against the terrorist strikes that have been launched against them.




Answers:

A4, B3, C2, D1
Now order the statements from the craziest to the most sound? Then ask which of these speakers Charley would call pilars of the community and welcomed (or past honored) guests at the White House?

Posted by: truthIsOutThere  
Mar 21, 09:20 AM
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One important point that everyone seems to be missing is that Rev. Wright's racial remarks are set in the context of his theology--which is black liberation theology. Black liberation theology is an off-shoot of liberation theology which is a synthesis of marxism and religious liberal Christianity. An example of this is Rev. Wright's description of Jesus as a "poor black man under an oppressive white gov't". This is very similar to the more generic liberation theology which describes Jesus as a "poor, Galilean peasant who was killed by an oppressive Roman gov't." Liberation theology views all interactions in political/economic terms much as Karl Marx did. Only, in black liberation theology it is not the proletariat vs. the bourgeios, it is black (proletariat) vs. white (bourgeois).

Therefore, in an Obama administration you will find the official American foreign policy being much more receptive to marxist revolutions around the world (in whatever form they come), and domestically, proposals to "sock it to the rich" in taxes (read "rich" as any family making more than $75k per year) and government take-over of private industry--e.g., healthcare companies.

Furthermore, Rev. Wright seems to have very little regard for successful African-Americans who do not follow his political/religious worldview--namely, Oprah, Condoleeza Rice, Tiger Woods, Colin Powell and Justice Clarance Thomas. Apparently they have "sold-out".

So, it is not just that Rev. Wright is a racist, his racism is just a vehicle of his marxist worldview. Since we do not know specific statements Obama disagrees with Rev. Wright, we might conclude he does agree with Rev. Wright's marxist worldview--I'm sure he would understand that after 20 yrs. of association.

Posted by: Kirklander  
Mar 21, 09:21 AM
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Obama owned.

Obama has the sparsest record imaginable. 1/2 year as a senator and half of that spent campaigning for pres? Tell me again how he's qualified to be president of the US?

Obama and his surrogates have race-baited this entire campaign, starting with the absolute freak-out that occurred following Bill Clinton's remarks about Obama being a "kid" (lack of experience) and calling his voting record on Iraq a "fairy tale". "The first black president" was promptly thrown under the bus as a "racist". Try and figure that one out. A "racist". Oh, he criticized a black guy, and in current American culture, ANY criticism of a black person brings the knee-jerk "RACIST" response from the black community and professional race-baiters like Donna Brazile.

Then we have these sickening comments from Obama's mentor of 20 years, followed by Obama's "You created Wright, whitey, and Geraldine Ferraro is just as bad, so there" speech.

Glad to see this clown is tanking in the polls. FINALLY getting some scrutiny from the press.

Posted by: zap  
Mar 21, 09:23 AM
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Sean Hannity And His Relationship With White Supremacist Hal Turner

[www.youtube.com]

Posted by: Quinn  
Mar 21, 09:24 AM
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Guy Falkner Wrote:
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> Confussed Redneck Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I am a self proclaimed Redneck and now am
> > confused.
> >
> > I have been getting all this mails saying to be
> > wary of this secret muslim but now I am getting
> > mails to be wary of this hateful Christian.
> >
> > So which one is it?
>
>
> That was a brilliant statement. That statement
> pretty much sums up how silly/stupid the right has
> been in reference to Obama.

It's completely obvious that Obama's critics are willing to trade the MUSLIM label for the RACIST label. Whichever label will do him the most harm politically.

The funny thing about the Rev. Wright story is that according to the latest polls, MOST voters have been able to distinguish the difference between the words of a man, and the words of his pastor. I do not think that Obama's enemies expected such a LACK of outrage directed at Obama, otherwise they would have stuck with the "Obama is a muslim terrorist" story.

I am absolutely certain that the next charge against Obama will be related to his dog. Fox News will report that his dog is connected to a Coumbian drug ring and serves as a cocaine purity analyst. The implication will be that since a dog is a man's best friend, we can confirm that Obama is back to using drugs like he did when he was a teenager? We'll have the shocking video of Obama's dog next. We report. You decide.

Posted by: mcblogger  
Mar 21, 09:24 AM
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CK is indeed a great intellect and writer, howver, he lacks the credibility to sit in judgement of Obama's motives. I would welcome the day CK provides an equally well thought out criticism of Israel. Everyone has a blind spot. Obama's perhaps is his affection for a cranky, politically incorrect pastor. CK's is the real problem in the Middle East, Israel's bullying of poverty stricken masses.

Posted by: JWilson  
Mar 21, 09:24 AM
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"Wright did not say these things in passing, in a closed room, just a few times. These words were offered up as the Gospel of Jesus, in a well thought out sermon to millions of people live and on tape."

Baaaaaa.

You get 45 seconds of ill-timed, questionable comment and decide that's who the man is? You're hand-fed 45 seconds from 3000 hours of video as condensed and provided by those with malice and motivation, and decide that this is representative?

If this were representative, we'd all agree with you. But seeing as we have 45 seconds of a 25-year career, even though hundreds have been scouring for more, you don't have enough free thought to ask yourself "Um... am I making a mistake by assuming that I can judge a man based on what equates to .000012% of the available evidence as provided by someone with very well-known intentions?"

This seriously seems even remotely rational or logical to you? Honestly?

Posted by: zap  
Mar 21, 09:27 AM
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Hannity Denies Past Association With White Supremacist But Evidence Suggests Otherwise

Another night, another high tech lynching of Barack Obama on Hannity & Colmes. It was the usual attacks on Obama over those with whom he associates. But last night (3/19/08), Sean Hannity was confronted about his own past association with white supremacist Hal Turner. First Hannity denied knowing Turner, then he said he had long ago banned Turner from his show. While it’s probably true that Hannity banned Turner, what Hannity didn’t mention is that before Turner got banned, he was regularly welcomed on Hannity’s show, even after saying on the air that if it weren’t for the graciousness of white people, "black people would still be swinging on trees in Africa." Updated with video.

Malik Shabazz, of the New Black Panther Party, was the guest. FOX News frequently hosts members of that organization, usually as objects of derision. Last night, Shabazz was there because his organization had endorsed Barack Obama. It was an endorsement that Obama specifically rejected but FOX News deliberately trumped up the endorsement by inviting Shabazz on the program (See, look what kind of extremists Obama associates with), playing a clip from one of Shabazz’ more incendiary confrontations with Hannity (Jews knew about 9/11 and got out of the way), and repeatedly running the “news” on the crawl that the Obama campaign had rejected the endorsement because the New Black Panther Party is considered to be an organization that advocates violence.

But last night, Shabazz wisely toned down his rhetoric and confronted Hannity on his own bias against Obama. “Why won’t you acknowledge the brilliance of Barack Obama’s speech? Why won’t you accept his call to come out of the divisive throngs of racism?” Shabazz asked.

Hannity praised Obama as a very effective politician. Then Hannity added, “What I don’t think you’re understanding here, Malik, is that when you hear the minister of him for 20 years, when you hear the associations with Louis Farrakhan, one of the biggest racists and anti-Semites in the country, what you’re not understanding is, America hears extremism at its worst.”

Shabazz responded, “Let me ask you this. Are you to be judged by your promotion and association with Hal Turner?”

Hannity waved his arm around. “I don’t know anybody named – this is nonsense. I don’t…” Then Hannity changed his tune. “Sir, sir… That was a man that was banned from my radio show ten years ago, that ran a Senate campaign in New Jersey.”

Then, as Shabazz refused to stop talking or back down, Hannity, in a tacit admission, said, “I’m not running for president.”

“A neo Nazi, you backed his career,” Shabazz said.

Hannity answered, “That is an absolute, positive, lie and you’ve been reading the wrong websites (presumably, he meant ours), my friend. Good try.”

In fact, the information about Hannity’s association with Turner comes from an article by Max Blumenthal in the online version of The Nation magazine, dated June 3, 2005. And while it may be a stretch to say that Hannity "backed Turner's career," there's little doubt that Hannity promoted Turner's views. To quote from the article:
Turner was once a prominent activist in New Jersey's Republican Party. To area conservatives, he was best known by his moniker for call-ins to the Sean Hannity Show, "Hal from North Bergen." For years, Hannity offered his top-rated radio show as a regular forum for Turner's occasionally racist, always over-the-top rants. Hannity also chatted with him off-air, allegedly offering encouragement to Turner as he struggled to overcome a cocaine habit and homosexual leanings. Turner has boasted that Hannity once invited Turner and his son on to the set of Fox News's Hannity and Colmes. Today, Turner lurks on the fringes of the far right, spouting hate-laced tirades on his webcast radio show. Hannity, meanwhile, remains mum about his former alliance with the neo-Nazi, homing in instead on the supposed racism of black and Latino Democrats.

…On WABC Hannity inherited (Bob) Grant's fan base of angry white males, who listened to his show in the New York City area. Hannity recognized his audience's thirst for red meat, racist rhetoric. However, he knew that if he wanted to avoid Grant's fate, he needed an air of deniability. When "Hal from North Bergen" began calling his show, Hannity found he could avoid the dangers of direct race-baiting by simply outsourcing it to Turner.

During an August 1998 episode of the show, Turner reminded Hannity that were it not for the graciousness of the white man, "black people would still be swinging on trees in Africa," according to Daryle Jenkins, co-founder of the New Jersey-based antiracism group One People's Project. Instead of rebuking Turner or cutting him off, Hannity continued to welcome his calls. On December 10 of the following year, Turner called Hannity's show to announce his campaign to run for a seat in the US House of Representatives from New Jersey, and to attack his presumptive opponent, Democratic Representative Robert Menendez, as a "left-wing nut."

By this time, according to Jenkins, Turner and Hannity had bonded off-air. In 1998 Hannity received an anonymous e-mail linking to an AOL discussion board on which Turner had allegedly confessed to a cocaine problem and alluded to past homosexual trysts. Turner (or someone claiming to be Turner) wrote in an August 4, 1998, Google discussion forum that Hannity called him to clear the air: "Just last week, Sean phoned me at home from his job at FOX News to continue a conversation we'd begun earlier while he was at WABC," Turner wrote. "Sean advised that one of you sensitive souls sent him an e-mail about 'revelations I had made' here on the internet. He told me it was obviously and [sic] attempt to 'poison the water.' " Turner continued, "I told him that I've done things I'm not proud of, and had dark times in my life; and those experiences helped shape the way I live today...the right way. He [Hannity] laughed and commented that he knew the feeling." Turner added that such chats with Hannity were "not unusual," often occurring while Hannity held his calls during commercial breaks.

But Turner and Hannity's relationship collapsed in 2000 after the Hudson County Republican Party endorsed Turner's primary challenger, Theresa De Leon, an accomplished businesswoman and dark-skinned Latina. "I had never judged people on their race, not prior to that point," Turner recalled in a February 23, 2003, article in the Bergen County Record. "And there I was, on the receiving end--in America--of a decision that I wasn't good enough because I was a white male." Turner finished last in the primary, just as Hannity was hitting his stride as a major Fox News personality. When WABC's screeners began blocking Turner's calls, he realized he was no longer of use to Hannity.

Posted by: Bing Crosby  
Mar 21, 09:30 AM
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Chuck, I ask you this, what about Hugo Black? A great SC Justice. The first of the strict constructionists whom I'm certain you support. A federalist. And a Klansman. FDR knew it and he put him on the court anyway, and then the former Klansman wound up on the right side of Brown v. Board of ED and several other important civil rights decisions.

So, I guess my question to you is, how is the fact that somebody's pastor made some stupid offensive remarks (Wright will not be on the SC, nor Obama's cabinet) at all reflective of the candidate who attends his church, when most of us regard FDR as a great president and he put a Klansman on the Court - and it turned out to be the right thing, as Black followed the law and his brain, not his racist past?

Your reasoning stinks. This is a bunch of hogwash that has everything to do with a) the fact that Obama is a democrat and b) the fact that he is half-black.

Posted by: Mightycline  
Mar 21, 09:30 AM
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Wen God is angry with a Nation......He destroys that Nation......Remember the USSR folks?
Enough said; we are not the whor...... of the world. We are the one's free to say what ever fool thought may pop up in our head. Praise the Lord for He is with us when we are united in one God...

Posted by: HutchTX  
Mar 21, 09:31 AM
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"That's why the speech made so many liberal commentators swoon: It bathed them in racial guilt, while flattering their intellectual pretensions. An unbeatable combination."

Priceless! Charles, I am stealing those lines.

Did you send your article to that pinko Olbermann by any chance?

Posted by: LDC  
Mar 21, 09:32 AM
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The profound sadness of all this is that a campaign and a candidate who professed (and was professed by his supporters) to transcent race (primarily black & white, Asian and Hispanic only as an addendum) turns out to be all about race. Not good for any of us.

Posted by: Stephen Bleeds  
Mar 21, 09:33 AM
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I am continually stunned by the ability of seemingly intelligent humans to distort any information to fit a small primitive belief system. This is an example of a literate human processing information in the same fashion that the church did when it refused to accept that the sun was the center of the universe…they denied it because they could not fit the thought on their post-it size notes …the thought was too big for them to process.

Posted by: zap  
Mar 21, 09:34 AM
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Hannity's Nazi Pal Threatens To Assassinate Obama

As reported by Newshounds, right wing neo nazi Sean Hannity's longtime pal and friend Hal Turner (a.k.a. "Hal From North Bergen") has threatened to assassinate the frontrunner to be the next President of the United States, Senator Barack Obama.

Turner, who has been a big fan of Rush Limbaugh and Bob Grant, and was a regular guest on Hannity's program for years, had this to say about Obama.

In fact, I'm starting to come to the realization that it may be up to a sole person, acting alone, to make certain this guy is never allowed to hold the most powerful office in the world. Sorry it may have to be that way, but it may.

Hopefully, the FBI and Secret Service will show up at Turner's door in North Bergen, New Jersey sometime this week, throw handcuffs on this Nazi, put him on trial, convict the scum, and send his Nazi @#$%& off to jail for the rest of his pathetic life.

davefromqueens's diary :: ::
Sean Hannity is not a conservative, he is a neo-nazi and chief propagandist for the CCC, Aryan Nation, and the likes of Hal Turner. Max Blumenthal does a terrific job of documenting and exposing the direct links between Turner and Hannity. To this day, Hannity has never rejected or denounced a single comment of Turner's. Turner's comments have been out there for almost a week and Hannity is silent again.

The reason I mention Hannity is not about personal disdain or the fact that the doofus is so afraid of a question some harmless guy in Queens might ask that he would support his program director's attempt to have said person falsely arrested.

I mention Hannity because he and Limbaugh are the two highest paid propagandists of the Republican Party. He merges Fox News and right wing talk radio. He trots out surrogates like Ann Coulter to spew the views he possesses.

Also, McCain and every major Republican running for President appeared on either his radio or TV shows.

I've often said that Limbaugh, Hannity, and Coulter are three of the main reasons why this country is becoming less conservative by the day. Simply put, they and others like O'Lielly are our best recruiters.

Posted by: Obama Osama  
Mar 21, 09:38 AM
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The fawning media and intellectual elite loved Obama's speech.

But the average middle-class person hated it.

It was all about Obama and his own race...me, myself and black people.

Why we black people are angry. Why white people are angry at us.

Our history. Our culture. Our churches. Our families.

Black people are just 12% of the U.S. population. As new immigrants keep arriving from Asia, Mexico, the Middle East and Eastern Europe, black people keep losing their importance as a "race."

Equality and bigotry isn't about race anymore. It's about a big melting pot of many origins and cultures. Obama's focus on blacks was arrogant and selfish, and it diminished the place of so many other ethnic groups in the American melting pot.

Middle-class white people also hated Obama's speech because he didn't acknowledge the difficulties they are having in welcoming new and unfamiliar races and ethnic groups into the American fabric. There are economic and homeland security fears he didn't address. Why not? Because it's risky for Obama, compared to the safety of making feel-good academic arguments about old black/white issues.

Americans hate gutless politicians who are afraid to take risk. They hate politicians who look backward instead of looking forward. And they hate politicians who cater to the intellectual elite instead of addressing their own dirtier and more difficult issues.

Posted by: WordsMatter  
Mar 21, 09:41 AM
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Krauthammer, clear and concise, not to mention intellectually honest. Mr. Obama lost this presidential race because he lost the white man vote and there's no way to get it back.

Posted by: Franco  
Mar 21, 09:41 AM
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Hey people!

It is not about the Reverend. It is about Obama and his wife. We have enough proofs to know the kind of politician Obama is.

It is about Judgment, Ethics, Trusting VS Rezco, Nafte, The reverend.

We cannot cover the sun with a finger. Even Obama's followers know this reality.
By the way, Obama had not "the courage" ha was forced because he was caught. He had no option.
In any case, he did not give the responses the public was expecting. He delivered an academic lecture, as usual. The man of the words.

Posted by: zap  
Mar 21, 09:42 AM
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Obama Osama, american like you as just racist period

Posted by: john culhane  
Mar 21, 09:43 AM
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If black hate speech isn't a product of white racism, then what IS IT a product of? This question surely suggests itself, but isn't addressed. How typical.

Wright's comments, while indefensible, are but extreme manifestations of what many (not quantifying here) Black Americans believe, to varying extents. They indeed stem from racism, both private and government-sanctioned (even by the ministers of public health, viz. Tuskegee).

Perhaps it's time to examine the root causes of these views, and to begin to think of ways to end the divide that this piece vilifies (but only as to African-Americans) but makes no attempt to address substantively. Anyone can lob things in from the periphery.

Posted by: Dao  
Mar 21, 09:44 AM
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Because of crime, she acted that way [like a typical white person]. What is a "typical white person" according to Obama?

If it was because of crime, then everyone will act the same way not just "typical white person"

Posted by: savage87  
Mar 21, 09:46 AM
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OK, so Obama realizes that there is both racist preachers and racist grandmothers. His campaign's main promise is his ability to transcend and unite. What is his plan to change this gap between the two sides?

Posted by: Phoenix Comment  
Mar 21, 09:46 AM
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Manipulative, manipulative...that is Obama. A recent speech read in a monotonous tone from a teleprompter that tried to hide his lies and make sorry @#$%& excuses for his racist preacher. A speech that manipulatively stated that a vote for him is a vote against racism. None of that speech explained why Obama sat in that church for so many years. A man who speaks in circles and acts as if he is entitled to the nomination. Messages of tired rhetoric that have begun to run very thin before the general election has ever began. A man who sat repeatedly over 20+ years and listened and supported a racist church, and never once spoke up to say it was wrong. Then, continues to profess his love and support for this hate monger pastor named Rev. Jeremiah Wright. A wife that only just now is proud of America. A man who exposes his children to all this. A man with a very thin resume. A man who recently complained to reporters: "C'mon guys... I've already answered like 8 questions." A man who spoke at the beginning of his campaign as if he was the annointed one...remember his words, "Join the fold" and "Join the movement". (Yuck!) A man who substantially underrepresented the cash raised for his earlier campaigns by indicted criminal businessman Antoin “Tony” Rezko. A candidate who is trying to disenfranchise MI and FL votes. Voters now are feeling a little more than just buyer's remorse. What it really boils down to is one thing: The democratic party and the White House and the American people do not have the time or economic resources to host as flawed a candidate as Barack Obama.

My vote will go to Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: Kyle Johnson  
Mar 21, 09:46 AM
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I'm white. I don't feel personally "guilty" about America's past racial injustices (though they were wrong, I am not accountable). I loved Obama's speech.

Krauthammer has in his mind one demographic that covers all Obama supporters: upper-middle class, latte sipping, Harvard professors.

I'm a former Republican (switched on Super Tuesday to support Obama) from Kansas.

I'm unsure how Krauthammer will reconcile that "white, Obama supporter" does not equal "hippie".

Posted by: HutchTX  
Mar 21, 09:47 AM
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"You get 45 seconds of ill-timed, questionable comment and decide that's who the man is? You're hand-fed 45 seconds from 3000 hours of video as condensed and provided by those with malice and motivation, and decide that this is representative?"

JWil, are you still beating this drum? What happened to 71 seconds? Did you reduce it for the dead air between Wright's spoken words or what?

I think it is the fact that for 884 Sundays, 2.4 years in days, BO sat in that church where that philosophy was present in his pastor, those types of things were being said and applauded by the congregation and that Afro-Centric poison was foundational to the church's existence. That he never questioned it nor tried to leave makes us wonder about his judgment. Or, as you will surely respond, had he not know about it by hearing anyone else speak of the sermons he missed, we should now question his awareness.

Posted by: JWilson  
Mar 21, 09:48 AM
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LDC,

And the argument goes full-circle now. You submit that this man is now all about race, yet you don't provide any context from which you make the assertion. You're forced to provide general notions because anything presented as factual has been put to sleep over, and over, and over again.

You know what this is? This is the woman who is in an abusive marriage (20 years of dirty politics, special interest bowing, and flat out lies from the past four presidents). You learn there's a man that actually cares about you, and believes he can help you, and has never lied to you. You might be in love. But being abused is all you know, so you look for any faults or knicks in the armor so that you can have some sense of comfort when you lose your courage, and run back to the abusive relationship that you've come to know as "security".

Baaaaa

Posted by: Dan63  
Mar 21, 09:50 AM
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I was born in 1963, raised on a social welfare system like many blacks but worked my way out of it. I belive that if you allow someone like Jessie Jackson or Rev Sharpton or Wright to hold you down by playing the race card everytime something happens to a black person, then that will continue the battle that you are loosing. I think it's time that instead of playing the race card, that you pull your pants up, put your hats on straight and stop acting like hoodlems and start becoming contributors to the country instead of a burden and a crybaby. Don't use the excuse that your a burden because the system keeps you there. No one tells you to rob a bank or shoot somebody or, that you have to stay in the hood,, move someplace and make something of yourself insteady of asking for a handout over and over. I could still be on a wellfare program in WV or KY...but, I chose to make better for myself....and I don't owe anybody white or back anything. I have no white guilt, I don't owe reparations for slavery and am not stopping anyone from making their life better. I started with Zero and made something because I was embarrassed to asks for handouts...you should be too.

Posted by: Frank_the_yank  
Mar 21, 09:50 AM
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Charles has his head so far up his @$$ - as usual - perhaps he should question why the millions of viewers of the late great Pat Robertson's 700 club, or the followers of Jerry Falwell (America deserved 911) aren't being held to the same standard - disavow, quit, - guilt by association. What a fricking joke Krauthammer is.

Posted by: MacB  
Mar 21, 09:54 AM
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Why not leave a despicable organization? Why don't you leave Fox News, Charles? This is not about journalism. This is a coordinated attack. If it were journalism, "journalists" like Krauthammer would apply the same standards to the spiritual guides sought out by McCain. I seem to remember Falwell and Robertson committing the same sin Wright commits, blaming America for 9/11. Which is worse, not leaving or seeking out? This is just a mask for a profound bigotry. It is time to leave this politics and those who practice it in the dustbin of history.

Posted by: Carrie & Elisia Ross-Stone  
Mar 21, 09:54 AM
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What about the right's wacky Reverend Sun Myung Moon who calls America "Satan's harvest" and vows to subjugate its people under a Korea-based theocracy?

Why do Krauthhammer and other Republican water-carriers let this anti-American looney spew his hate-speech without challenge?

Because Moon (owner of the conservative rag -- The Washington Times -- [www.consortiumnews.com]) has spread around billions of dollars to Washington conservatives (http://www.consortiumnews.com/archive/moon3.html).

A close friend of the Bush family, Moon's millions has helped right-wing allies like Jerry Falwell and Oliver North. It's the real Asian money scandal -- and the Washington media is missing it.

Until Krauthammer decides to out the Republican's crazy Uncle, lets leave Reverend Wright alone.

Posted by: Dao  
Mar 21, 09:57 AM
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Let's take a hypothetical example of some white man, who has done nothing but good deeds all his life for his community. A recognized community organizer and mentor. One day in a public speech to his community, he states, "poor black people are corrupting our community", "these poor black people are causing AIDS epidemic to hurt the white community". Should this person be exempt and forgiven since he's a recognized good person for his 2 statements? If Hillary Clinton was associated with this person for over 20 years, and he's been her spiritual mentor/advisor and part of her campaign as religious leader and advisor, would you vote for her? (putting aside from all other shortfalls of Hillary Clintons for the sake of argument)

Posted by: Phoenix Comment  
Mar 21, 09:58 AM
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Frank The Yank, stick to the issue here. We are talking about Obama and his tired rhetoric...his speech that failed. And it did. People feel duped by Obama. We are discussing why within this forum. Because of Obama's narcism and self-serving agenda, the democratic party is now paying a dear price. We are discussing that in this forum. Can you share something that relates to this subject?

Posted by: JWilson  
Mar 21, 09:59 AM
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Hutch,

I am beating that drum. Yup. And I'll continue to beat it until people stop acting like sheep. And the 71 seconds got shot down to 45 seconds as a result of what most have come to realize. I went with the more conservative number because that would be inherently fair. That's what this is all about, remember?

Speaking of which -

"I think it is the fact that for 884 Sundays, 2.4 years in days, BO sat in that church where that philosophy was present in his pastor"

You've managed to present that 45 seconds, 71 seconds ('ll let you pick the number with which you have the greatest comfort) as representative of those 884 Sundays, 2.4 years in days. You've asserted that this 45 seconds, 71 seconds were the norm, and that Obama sat there and listened to it. And you base this on?

All of the video that has since been released by the hundreds of motivated operatives? Apparently not.

The fact that the church's public attendance records have shown that Obama lied, and was there for any rants whatsoever? Ummm.. Nope. Apparently not.

You seem fixated on the notion that these snippits are representative of his sermons. Okay, I'll give you your shot at providing some, any substance to that claim.

Please provide a link to a news organization, a website, and newspaper, a television station, a hate-group. Sean Hannity's myspace page... anything that suggests that what you're submitting to everyone as factual has any basis in fact whatsoever. Any evidence that these hand-picked snippits are in the slightest way representative of his sermons. Anything.

I'll wait for the link. Otherwise you come across as a Bushian.

Keep repeating "he sat there for 20 years and listened to it!" "He sat there for 20 years and listened to it!" "He sat there for 20 years and listened to it!". Eventually you'll have people start believing it. And it's sad, because your argument and assertion is entirely flawed, without any foundation, and inherently unfair.

Posted by: Erik Hare  
Mar 21, 09:59 AM
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Today's reading comes from Ecclesiastes, Chapter 3:

To every thing there is a spin, and a spin to every parry under the heaven:
a spin on birth, and a spin on death; a spin on planting, and a spin on harvesting
a spin on killing, and a spin on heaing; a spin on breaking down, and a spinto building up;
a spin on weeping, and a spin on laughing; a spin on mourning, and a spin on dancing;
for it is always, always, a time to gather stones together; it is always a time to refrain from embracing;
one must be resolute and rigid in the face of the world, and spin it the way that suits you best.

Posted by: nvd  
Mar 21, 10:04 AM
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I'm tired of all this. What an excuse the black people have that the white people are the root of all of their problems. I would have respected Obama more if he were to stand up there and say to all black people "wake up, get up and live your life. you are not a victim, you are in control." Instead, he reverts back to the drivel that he did. It's tired, and it's old. BO, you want to lead, then lead, don't follow in the footsteps of Wright & co.

Posted by: nvd  
Mar 21, 10:04 AM
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I'm tired of all this. What an excuse the black people have that the white people are the root of all of their problems. I would have respected Obama more if he were to stand up there and say to all black people "wake up, get up and live your life. you are not a victim, you are in control." Instead, he reverts back to the drivel that he did. It's tired, and it's old. BO, you want to lead, then lead, don't follow in the footsteps of Wright & co by rationalizing their hatemongering.

Posted by: J Sechler, MD  
Mar 21, 10:06 AM
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You are exactly right! You have articulately hit the nail on the head! Even I, a cardiologist, can recognize your excellent psychological insight in this matter. The evolution of this race has put the Democrat party on the horns of a dilemma: The selection of either candidate will likely alienate a significant, if not vital, segment of the electorate which the Dems need to win in November. It is a beautiful thing to watch, and may the chaos continue!

Posted by: Marilyn Madd  
Mar 21, 10:07 AM
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I was willing to listen to Obama. But felt he went too far when he suggested his grandmother who raised him was a racist because she worried about black men at her bus stop. Then to say that Geraldine Ferraro is racist because she dared to speak the truth that he would not be as far as he was today if he were not black. He would not have been given the chance to give the speech at the Democrat convention, which brought him to national attention, if he were not black. There were plenty of young articulate freshmen senators who could have spoke but he was given the opportunity because he is black. I have no problem with black people being given such opportunities but to say that a woman who has always fought for the rights of all minorities is racist because she dared to speak the "politically incorrect" truth is beyond the pale. Why should a known fighter for civil rights be called a racist because of telling the truth?

Posted by: HutchTX  
Mar 21, 10:08 AM
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JWil, here is your link: [www.tucc.org]

This is BO's church website. I can't say how long this foundational description of the congregation has been around but I am going to go way out on a limb and guess it has not only been there for the last 41 seconds.

Sample:
"We are a congregation which is Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian... Our roots in the Black religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent. We are an African people, and remain "true to our native land," the mother continent, the cradle of civilization. God has superintended our pilgrimage through the days of slavery, the days of segregation, and the long night of racism. It is God who gives us the strength and courage to continuously address injustice as a people, and as a congregation. We constantly affirm our trust in God through cultural expression of a Black worship service and ministries which address the Black Community.

The Pastor as well as the membership of Trinity United Church of Christ is committed to a 10-point Vision:

1. A congregation committed to ADORATION.
2. A congregation preaching SALVATION.
3. A congregation actively seeking RECONCILIATION.
4. A congregation with a non-negotiable COMMITMENT TO AFRICA.
5. A congregation committed to BIBLICAL EDUCATION.
6. A congregation committed to CULTURAL EDUCATION.
7. A congregation committed to the HISTORICAL EDUCATION OF AFRICAN PEOPLE IN DIASPORA.
8. A congregation committed to LIBERATION.
9. A congregation committed to RESTORATION.
10. A congregation working towards ECONOMIC PARITY."

Posted by: GoGators  
Mar 21, 10:09 AM
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Rev. Jeremiah Wright was considered an educated, authoritative voice of wisdom to his community. He is an educated man who garners enormous respect in his community. His preaching and vitriol would naturally be considered truth to his congregants. Rev. Wrights words infected a generation of children with hatred, lies, and reasons to despise America. He was not building up these people, he was tearing them down.

Who would allow their children to attend a school where hatred, lies, and propaganda are spewed? If Obama is such a great leader, why did he sit idly by as Jeremiah Wright preached lies, hatred, and anti-americanism to his children and all the children in that congregation? . With the lies that he preached, where was Obama to try to educate the community and in some way protect them from the distortions they were being preached?

Where is the outrage on Obama’s lack of leadership. Why did it take until last Tuesday for Obama to say anything at all about this?. If Wright was Obama’s friend, why didn’t he tell him to stop with the lies and distortions? Instead, Obama dutifully and silently attended Rev. Wright’s church for 20 years.

I remember hippies once telling me “SILENCE IS THE VOICE OF COMPLICITY.” Indeed, Mr. Obama, your silence speaks volumes.

Posted by: Rod  
Mar 21, 10:11 AM
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Barack taught us that he aspires to be the Presindent of African America. Perhaps unconsciously, he conveyed a bitterness toward white America. The speech was not so brilliant.

Also a serious personal flaw was revealed. He repeated it again yesterday. He criticised his grandmother to a national audience. How much does he value his grandmother when he criticises her to bolster his argument that white prejudice exists?

Posted by: surecon  
Mar 21, 10:12 AM
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JWilson Wrote:
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> LDC,
>
> And the argument goes full-circle now. You submit
> that this man is now all about race, yet you don't
> provide any context from which you make the
> assertion. You're forced to provide general
> notions because anything presented as factual has
> been put to sleep over, and over, and over again.
>
> You know what this is? This is the woman who is
> in an abusive marriage (20 years of dirty
> politics, special interest bowing, and flat out
> lies from the past four presidents). You learn
> there's a man that actually cares about you, and
> believes he can help you, and has never lied to
> you. You might be in love. But being abused is
> all you know, so you look for any faults or knicks
> in the armor so that you can have some sense of
> comfort when you lose your courage, and run back
> to the abusive relationship that you've come to
> know as "security".
>
> Baaaaa

From an abusive husband to a pimp. Not a good move--kind of like from the frying pan to the fire, don't you think?

Posted by: zap  
Mar 21, 10:13 AM
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This is the type on country we are living please read below

==================000==========================
Rice to Obama: Sorry for Passport Breach

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice on Friday apologized to Sen. Barack Obama for a security breach in which three State Department contractors inappropriately reviewed the Democratic presidential candidate's passport file.

The episode raised questions as to whether the actions of the three contractors, two of whom have been fired, were politically motivated.

"I told him that I was sorry, and I told him that I myself would be very disturbed," Rice told reporters.

"None of us wants to have a circumstance where any American's passport files are looked at in an unauthorized way," she said.

Rice, who spoke with Obama by phone, said she was particularly disappointed that senior officials at the State Department were not immediately notified.

"It was not to my knowledge, and we also want to take every step to make sure that this kind of thing doesn't happen again," she said.

The State Department's inspector general is investigating the passport breach, which occurred on three separate occasions - Jan. 9, Feb. 21 and as recently as last week, on March 14. On Friday, the department announced that the Justice Department would be monitoring the probe in case it needs to get involved.

State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said Friday that the State Department would make results of the investigation available to congressional oversight committees and to Obama's office.

Bill Burton, a spokesman for Obama's presidential campaign, has called the incident "an outrageous breach of security and privacy."

Two of the employees were fired for the security breach and the third was disciplined but is still working, the department said Thursday. It would not release the names of those who were fired and disciplined or the names of the two companies for which they worked.

It is not clear whether the employees saw anything other than the basic personal data such as name, citizenship, age, Social Security number and place of birth, which is required when a person fills out a passport application.

Aside from the file, the information could allow Obama's critics to dig deeper into his private life. While the file includes his date and place of birth, address at time of application and the countries he's traveled to, the most important detail would be his Social Security number, which can be used to pull credit reports and other personal information.

"This is a serious matter that merits a complete investigation, and we demand to know who looked at Senator Obama's passport file, for what purpose and why it took so long for them to reveal this security breach," Burton said on Thursday.

McCormack said the breaches occurred were detected by internal State Department computer checks. The department's top management officer, Undersecretary Patrick Kennedy, said certain records, including those of high-profile people, are "flagged" with a computer tag that tips off supervisors when someone tries to view the records without a proper reason.

The firings and unspecified discipline of the third employee already had occurred when senior State Department officials learned of the breaches. Kennedy called that a failing.

"I will fully acknowledge this information should have been passed up the line," Kennedy told reporters in a conference call Thursday night. "It was dealt with at the office level."

In answer to a question, Kennedy said the department doesn't look into political affiliation in doing background checks on passport workers. "Now that this has arisen, this becomes a germane question, and that will be something for the appropriate investigation to look into," he said.

The department informed Obama's Senate office of the breach on Thursday. Kennedy said that at the office's request, he will provide a personal briefing for the senator's staff on Friday. No one from the State Department spoke to Obama personally on Thursday, the officials said.

Obama was born in Hawaii and lived in Indonesia for several years as a child before returning to the United States. As a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, he has traveled to the Middle East; the former Soviet states with Sen. Richard Lugar, R-Ind.; and Africa, where in 2006 he and his wife, Michelle, publicly took HIV tests in Kenya to encourage people there to do the same.

Obama's father was born in Kenya, and the senator still has relatives there.

The disclosure of inappropriate passport inquiries recalled an incident in 1992, when a Republican political appointee at the State Department was demoted over a search of presidential candidate Bill Clinton's passport records. At the time he was challenging President George H.W. Bush.

The State Department's inspector general said the official had helped arrange the search in an attempt to find politically damaging information about Clinton, who had been rumored to have considered renouncing his citizenship to avoid the Vietnam War draft.

The State Department said the official, Steven Berry, had shown "serious lapses in judgment."

After a three-year, $2.2 million probe, a federal independent counsel exonerated officials in the incident, saying that while some of the actions investigated were "stupid, dumb and partisan," they were not criminal. The independent counsel also said that Berry and others who were disciplined for their involvement were treated unfairly.

Doug Hattaway, a spokesman for Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, the former first lady who is challenging Obama for the Democratic presidential nomination, said of the current breach: "It's outrageous and the Bush administration has to get to the bottom of it."

Kennedy and McCormack said it was too soon to say whether a crime was committed. The searches may violate the federal Privacy Act, and Kennedy said he is consulting State Department lawyers.

The State Department inspector general's power is limited because two of the employees are no longer working for the department. McCormack said it was premature to consider whether the FBI or Justice Department should be involved.

McCormack said Rice was informed of the breaches on Thursday.

The Washington Times first reported on the breaches.

Posted by: Chadletster  
Mar 21, 10:14 AM
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Gotta laugh at the Obamaton imbeciles posting "well what about this conservative preacher" and "that conservative preacher"? Hey, simpletons: Go back and repeat K-4 or take a remedial course in logic and reasoning at your local community college, if you can get in. There's a fundamental difference between

1) a candidate that's had an America-hating racist as his mentor/father-figure/spiritual guide for 2 decades - someone who married him and his wife and baptized his kids

and

2) Some preacher somewhere who makes bigoted statements and who also happens to announce his support for a candidate in 2008.

If we want to set the bar that low (#2), I'm sure we can find hundreds of radical nuts out there in black churches who have thrown their full weight behind Obama.

Posted by: JWilson  
Mar 21, 10:15 AM
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Great.

Where does it say

1. A congregation committed to HATING WHITEY.
2. A congregation preaching ANTI-AMERICANISM.
3. A congregation actively seeking POLICY BLAME FOR TERRORISM.

If you take your foundation for argument - that Obama is subjecting his children to 20 years of "this stuff", and bring it to your second point of argument, you're submitting that Obama is letting his kids hear about adoration, salvation, reconciliation, commitment to Africa, Biblical Education, Cultural Education, Historical Education of Afrian People in Diaspora, Liberation, Restoration and Economic Parity.

How DARE he, the racist, anti-American @#$%&!!

Posted by: Marco  
Mar 21, 10:16 AM
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Krauthammer what a fraud he is! In 1968 Martin Luther King (who I am sure the "K" man will extol as the opposite of Rev. Wright) said the following:

March 21, 2008
Another Angry Black Preacher from the Indianapolis Star
By E. J. Dionne

Listen to what King said about the Vietnam War at his own Ebenezer Baptist Church in Atlanta on Feb. 4, 1968: "God didn't call America to engage in a senseless, unjust war. ... And we are criminals in that war. We've committed more war crimes almost than any nation in the world, and I'm going to continue to say it. And we won't stop it because of our pride and our arrogance as a nation. But God has a way of even putting nations in their place." King then predicted this response from the Almighty: "And if you don't stop your reckless course, I'll rise up and break the backbone of your power."

Back in 1968 Krauthammer would be having seizures over this "un-American" of speeches and the video clip would be run endlessly on Fox...what a fraud "typical white people" can be...really

Posted by: JWilson  
Mar 21, 10:19 AM
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"a candidate that's had an America-hating racist as his mentor/father-figure/spiritual guide for 2 decades - someone who married him and his wife and baptized his kids"

This statement based on 45 seconds of video, judging from those hand-picked video, and equating it to be representative of 20 years of preaching.

And this coming from someone who professes to use logic.

Again - "Apples are Red. Some apples have worms. Therefore, fire engines have worms"

Oy.

Posted by: ACIMSTEVE  
Mar 21, 10:19 AM
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I pray for healing.
I pray for forgiveness for my thoughts of hate of people, networks and papers that disrespect my US Senator and the USA by association.

May the WORD WAR III end soon

white middle class man for Obama

Posted by: marco  
Mar 21, 10:24 AM
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Marco back in the 1960's Krauthammer will never show his face because jew was scare being chase out of town.

Posted by: Swayze  
Mar 21, 10:26 AM
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A year ago, I wondered how in the world could the republicans win come the general. Obama answered that question this week. Even now, with Richardson, and his play to the west and the latino community, I don't believe it is enough to save him in the general. He just alienated a large portion of white independents who are looking for someone to move past racial divisions instead of embracing them.

Instead of taking the opportunity to actually speak to the promise of a post racial America, he told them it's okay to embrace your hatred and continue to blame another race. He didn't take the opportunity to say to everyone and to every race, that the keys to their success are within each and every one of them.

Obama is notthing new and sure not the post-racial racial candidate. Sadly, he is just another candidate.

Posted by: surecon  
Mar 21, 10:27 AM
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zap Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> This is the type on country we are living please
> read below
>
> ==================000==========================
> Rice to Obama: Sorry for Passport Breach
>
> WASHINGTON (AP) -- Secretary of State Condoleezza
> Rice on Friday apologized to Sen. Barack Obama for
> a security breach in which three State Department
> contractors inappropriately reviewed the
> Democratic presidential candidate's passport
> file.
>
> The episode raised questions as to whether the
> actions of the three contractors, two of whom have
> been fired, were politically motivated.
>
> "I told him that I was sorry, and I told him that
> I myself would be very disturbed," Rice told
> reporters.
>
> "None of us wants to have a circumstance where any
> American's passport files are looked at in an
> unauthorized way," she said.
>
> Rice, who spoke with Obama by phone, said she was
> particularly disappointed that senior officials at
> the State Department were not immediately
> notified.
>
> "It was not to my knowledge, and we also want to
> take every step to make sure that this kind of
> thing doesn't happen again," she said.
>
> The State Department's inspector general is
> investigating the passport breach, which occurred
> on three separate occasions - Jan. 9, Feb. 21 and
> as recently as last week, on March 14. On Friday,
> the department announced that the Justice
> Department would be monitoring the probe in case
> it needs to get involved.
>
> State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said
> Friday that the State Department would make
> results of the investigation available to
> congressional oversight committees and to Obama's
> office.
>
> Bill Burton, a spokesman for Obama's presidential
> campaign, has called the incident "an outrageous
> breach of security and privacy."
>
> Two of the employees were fired for the security
> breach and the third was disciplined but is still
> working, the department said Thursday. It would
> not release the names of those who were fired and
> disciplined or the names of the two companies for
> which they worked.
>
> It is not clear whether the employees saw anything
> other than the basic personal data such as name,
> citizenship, age, Social Security number and place
> of birth, which is required when a person fills
> out a passport application.
>
> Aside from the file, the information could allow
> Obama's critics to dig deeper into his private
> life. While the file includes his date and place
> of birth, address at time of application and the
> countries he's traveled to, the most important
> detail would be his Social Security number, which
> can be used to pull credit reports and other
> personal information.
>
> "This is a serious matter that merits a complete
> investigation, and we demand to know who looked at
> Senator Obama's passport file, for what purpose
> and why it took so long for them to reveal this
> security breach," Burton said on Thursday.
>
> McCormack said the breaches occurred were detected
> by internal State Department computer checks. The
> department's top management officer,
> Undersecretary Patrick Kennedy, said certain
> records, including those of high-profile people,
> are "flagged" with a computer tag that tips off
> supervisors when someone tries to view the records
> without a proper reason.
>
> The firings and unspecified discipline of the
> third employee already had occurred when senior
> State Department officials learned of the
> breaches. Kennedy called that a failing.
>
> "I will fully acknowledge this information should
> have been passed up the line," Kennedy told
> reporters in a conference call Thursday night. "It
> was dealt with at the office level."
>
> In answer to a question, Kennedy said the
> department doesn't look into political affiliation
> in doing background checks on passport workers.
> "Now that this has arisen, this becomes a germane
> question, and that will be something for the
> appropriate investigation to look into," he said.
>
> The department informed Obama's Senate office of
> the breach on Thursday. Kennedy said that at the
> office's request, he will provide a personal
> briefing for the senator's staff on Friday. No one
> from the State Department spoke to Obama
> personally on Thursday, the officials said.
>
> Obama was born in Hawaii and lived in Indonesia
> for several years as a child before returning to
> the United States. As a member of the Senate
> Foreign Relations Committee, he has traveled to
> the Middle East; the former Soviet states with
> Sen. Richard Lugar, R-Ind.; and Africa, where in
> 2006 he and his wife, Michelle, publicly took HIV
> tests in Kenya to encourage people there to do the
> same.
>
> Obama's father was born in Kenya, and the senator
> still has relatives there.
>
> The disclosure of inappropriate passport inquiries
> recalled an incident in 1992, when a Republican
> political appointee at the State Department was
> demoted over a search of presidential candidate
> Bill Clinton's passport records. At the time he
> was challenging President George H.W. Bush.
>
> The State Department's inspector general said the
> official had helped arrange the search in an
> attempt to find politically damaging information
> about Clinton, who had been rumored to have
> considered renouncing his citizenship to avoid the
> Vietnam War draft.
>
> The State Department said the official, Steven
> Berry, had shown "serious lapses in judgment."
>
> After a three-year, $2.2 million probe, a federal
> independent counsel exonerated officials in the
> incident, saying that while some of the actions
> investigated were "stupid, dumb and partisan,"
> they were not criminal. The independent counsel
> also said that Berry and others who were
> disciplined for their involvement were treated
> unfairly.
>
> Doug Hattaway, a spokesman for Sen. Hillary Rodham
> Clinton, the former first lady who is challenging
> Obama for the Democratic presidential nomination,
> said of the current breach: "It's outrageous and
> the Bush administration has to get to the bottom
> of it."
>
> Kennedy and McCormack said it was too soon to say
> whether a crime was committed. The searches may
> violate the federal Privacy Act, and Kennedy said
> he is consulting State Department lawyers.
>
> The State Department inspector general's power is
> limited because two of the employees are no longer
> working for the department. McCormack said it was
> premature to consider whether the FBI or Justice
> Department should be involved.
>
> McCormack said Rice was informed of the breaches
> on Thursday.
>
> The Washington Times first reported on the
> breaches.

How about that, Zap and Carrie & Elisia Ross-Stone? The right wing rag uncovered the story. Talk about objectivity. The Wash comPoste, NYT, and Dan Rather were too busy making up their own stories to uncover news.

Fire 'em all, Condi. We need to get rid of the dead weight leftists from State anyway.

Posted by: Wilson Zorn  
Mar 21, 10:30 AM
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Please q.v. my comments at [www.zorn.name] (hey, it's only one click away!), regarding this, in essence I find the same dishonesty that Krauthammer puts on Obama in his own column.

Posted by: HutchTX  
Mar 21, 10:40 AM
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JWilson Wrote:
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> Great.
>
> Where does it say
>
> 1. A congregation committed to HATING WHITEY.
> 2. A congregation preaching ANTI-AMERICANISM.
> 3. A congregation actively seeking POLICY BLAME
> FOR TERRORISM.

Wouldn't a rational person find it implied in the following:
1. "through the days of slavery, the days of segregation, and the long night of racism." A congregation actively seeking RECONCILIATION.
2. A congregation with a non-negotiable COMMITMENT TO AFRICA...AFRICAN PEOPLE IN DIASPORA.
3. I'm still studying the site and will fill in this blank as soon as I get to it.

Posted by: WSH  
Mar 21, 10:40 AM
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"The point I was making was not that my grandmother harbors any racial animosity. She doesn't. But she is a typical white person," Barack Obama (WIP Radio in Philadelphia)

BHO is a student of Rev. Wright after all

Posted by: cwat  
Mar 21, 10:41 AM
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CK is dead on point with this. As a now former Obama supporter, I'm very disappointed (and glad) that this has come to light before I vote on May 6.

Ask yourslef this: if a white candidate attended and financially supported the "church" of the Aryan Brotherhood, would he get a pass like Obama does? You're telling me that you would have no problem with a message that says "America sucks because of black people" or "black people are murdering terrorist trying to exterminate white people" or "blacks have subverted the US government and are now waging an ecominc war on white people via affirmative action"?

Would you then believe the white candidate who tells you that - "why - I had no idea about this kind of hatred"? Would you beleive the white candidate who eloquently tells all that "I condemn this message of hatred" - and oh by the way - never mind my 20 years of support?

Obama's speach proves but one thing - he's another lying politician who will say what he has to, WHEN he has to say it in order to advance his political ambitions. In the final analysis - Obama's deeds do not square with his rhetoric and all of the eloquent smoke screens and verval hocus pocus cannot change that fact.

But what do I know - I'm just a "typical white person".

Posted by: susanna  
Mar 21, 10:41 AM
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This was one of the most well-written arguments I have seen on this debacle. Now we know why Mrs. Obama said what she said. The man BHO is a sham. Thank you Charles.

Posted by: Adt  
Mar 21, 10:46 AM
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If you don't agree with Obama, much less vote for him, that's your choice, and opinion, which I'll respect.

But to call a speech such as this, one which took courage (most politicians try to divert/dodge issues such as these) to even attempt a "fraud" is sad and shows your total bias.

As an Australian (a people I know Charle's your familair with) from Melbourne now living in the US, we are much more familiar with diversity (albeit a shorter history) due to our immigration policies, which have resulted in a great tension across communities, one which not to long ago resulted in race riots.

To have a person such as Obama, with his background acheive the position he is in today (even if he gets no further), is a reminder of why the USA - as such a progressive country - leads the world in so many areas... even in my home country - as forward thinking as it is - I cannot imagine a similar situation happening for a long, long time. Obama is a product of this wonderiful nation.

Don't smear or tear this down, with allegations of fraud borne out of the same old cynical political and idealogical differences...

Posted by: John in California  
Mar 21, 10:49 AM
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Mr. Krauthhammer,
By fixating on the few inflammatory and offensive rhetorical excesses of Reverend Wright to the exclusion of accumulation of other statements and actions experienced by that congregation, you are essentially setting a standard of no forgiveness and no understanding. You have no idea whether the Reverend spoke of love, justice, mercy, and peace from the pulpit. You have no idea whether the Reverend ministered to the sick, the needy, and underserved. You have no idea whether the Reverend embraced the rejected and the disaffected. You have no idea whether the Reverend touched individual souls in a way that enriched their lives and inspired them to improve their communities. What you seek is an absolute repudiation of a man and a church. To what end? The statements were denounced and rejected. And the circumstance was used as redemptive healing moment for our society. Even more than that, Senator Obama chose to shed light on the perceptions of a diverse black community and, to a lesser extent a diverse white community's perceptions. To call it all a fraud because he never the church and will not leave it now is to intentionally ignore the discourse on this very important topic and to dismiss the redemptive opportunity as mere sophistry. But ask yourself, what have you contributed? What do you think Senator Obama is supposed to do? And if he did, what would that accomplish? I suspect you don't have an answer. Because your real point is your disdain for him.

Posted by: BrianTR  
Mar 21, 10:51 AM
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Man Chucky, are you a hack or are you a hack? Talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel. Get an opinion, already.

Posted by: Albert  
Mar 21, 10:52 AM
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Let's not overlook the fact that Obama is a good politician. Good politicians tell people what they want to hear. Lousy politicians, such as McCain, tell people the truth - like, for instance, they tell factory workers in Michigan that the jobs lost to Mexico "are not coming back," or call a bigoted supporter a "little jerk," or admonish immigrant-bashing conservatives by telling them, "We're all God's children."

Posted by: getaclue  
Mar 21, 10:53 AM
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I absolutley love seeing the liberals scrambling and trying to lay this on the feet of conservatives. Sorry Dems - this is YOUR primary - ALL YOURS! - AND we have racism all over the place. One candiate introduces racism at any opportunity she can (via her minions). The other candidate outright supports racism for 20 years - why telling you otherwise.

No my Dem friends, racism is all yours! What party first looks at skin color or gender - Democrats - it's what defines them. You can fling all your baseless lies where ever you want - in the end - FOR ALL TO SEE IN THEIR OWN PRIMARY - racism is very much alive and well in the Democrat party.

Pathetic - racism, thy name is liberalism.

Posted by: lrey  
Mar 21, 10:54 AM
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Sir, you betray yourself. For you to pretend there are not scores of legitimate scholars and historians who also believe Roosevelt had advance notice of Pearl Harbor is ludicrous. Don't tell me you never heard that theory advanced until seeing a video of Jeremiah Wright. Do you also think it odd that a group of people viciously targeted in the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment, apparently because it didn't matter because they were "just black" would see a similar pattern in the HIV/Aids epidemic? No, why should they. Everyone knows white people wouldn't do something like that- again. Do you think 9/11 has nothing to do with our policies, actions, and alliances abroad? Are you telling me our relationship with Israel has absolutely nothing to do with terrorism begining in the late sixties and continuing today? Are you saying that Palestinians aren't or shouldn't be angry with our total bias towards Israel? Are you saying this government never sponsered coups and assasinations? No, enemies attack the mightiest nation on Earth because they are envious of our freedom and democracy. You may not like a black people speaking truth to power. When you want them to think something, you'll give them a script. What that man said was squarely in the vein of acceptable political speech. You may not like it but it's time you learned you have to share the world of ideas.

Posted by: Bathrobe Sage  
Mar 21, 10:55 AM
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First, Charles Krauthammer was trained as a psychiatrist, not as a newsman. He is an opinion page columnist. He was hired to express his conservative views for public consumption. He does this well enough to have won a 1987 Pulitzer Prize for Commentary, not for News Reporting, Investigative Reporting or any other kind of reporting. He is not obliged to present facts or evidence, though it is more impressive when he does, only to express his opinion. He apparently does this well enough to be paid handsomely for writing his newspaper column and for voicing his views on various 'talking head' television programs. He has every right to do what he does and get paid handsomely for it.

I am a septuagenarian and have in my lifetime heard excellent speeches delivered by Franklin D. Roosevelt, Dwight Eisenhower, Ronald Reagan, Adlai Stevenson, Martin Luther King, Jr., Mario Cuomo, Billy Graham and John F. Kennedy, among others. The Obama speech in Philadelphia ranks right up there with those, equal if not better.

When Mr. Krauthammer's columns, including the one discussed here, have been either shredded and forgotten or otherwise consigned to the dustbins of history, Barack Obama's Philadelphia speech is likely to remain alive and well, quoted and referenced generations from now as a classic summation of racism and bigotry in the United States at the dawn of the 21st Century. This is the truth that Mr. Krauthammer knows full well, but finds difficult to fully digest.

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Mar 21, 10:55 AM
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BrianTR Wrote:
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> Man Chucky, are you a hack or are you a hack?
> Talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel. Get
> an opinion, already.


Wow, Brian. What a thoughtful retort.

Posted by: WSH  
Mar 21, 10:58 AM
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Adt Wrote: post # 206
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"Don't smear or tear this down, with allegations of fraud borne out of the same old cynical political and idealogical differences..."

Criticism of BHO's support and allegiance to an anti-American, anti-white preacher is no smear as it is what they say of themselves … it is perspective.

Best wishes

Posted by: JWilson  
Mar 21, 11:04 AM
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Hutch,

I do know where you're coming from. I really do. But I don't believe you're staying open-minded and applying real logic because of the emotional nature of all of this.

Anyone... ANYONE who took the leap from those videos (that this is typical of the sermons) is going to soon thereafter find evidence that supports a notion of anti-Americanism or flat out racism. It becomes not a matter of information gathering, but a matter of perspective to validate our first conclusion. Everyone who comes to a conclusion has the innate need to know they got it right. I get it.

The pillar, the very foundation of all of this, however, is horribly flawed.

Can you understand why I would take issue with making absolute generalizations about a man based on 45 seconds (of 3,000 available hours) of video as provided to us by those with a specific motivation and agenda? Where we have access to ridiculous amounts of evidence to the contrary that is not being shown, can you understand why I refuse to make the leap of faith that we, as intelligent human beings, should equate what has been provided to us as representative, and substance for absolute judgment?

Can you at least agree with me that a conclusion based on what equates to a minute of unreasonable and offensive rants absolutely MUST be questioned when we're not permitted to see it in context or ratio?

We have Chicago pastors.. white ones, now coming to the defense of Wright. In droves. And these are all men who have been to the church, done sermons at the church, and who have had their own congregations visit the church for what were apparently dramatic and uplifting sermons. But we're to completely dismiss these men as what? Liars? Are we to dismiss these people who have known the guy for twenty years, because we saw video-stream of 45 seconds on TV that tells us they're foolish, racist, and anti-American? That's a bizarre conclusion that runs counter to rational, unemotional thought. Absolute fact tells us that what we're spreading in fear is NOT a conclusion that anyone with common sense could possibly come to.

I'm simply asking that we look at what we have here.

I refuse, absolutely REFUSE to take a minute's worth of video, and apply it as being commonplace when every other ounce of evidence suggests we'd be fools to do so.

Will you not agree that we could very easily compact video of Albert Speer to one minute, make him look like a swell guy, then ask for everyone to then assume that Hitler must be one awesome dude?

What we're presenting out of paranoia as fact is simply wrong. Horribly wrong. And it's unfair to the core.

Posted by: AA2  
Mar 21, 11:05 AM
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This article is a fraud. Too many pundits are imposing their own (false) values in a way that is irresponsible. Simply put, they want to inflame others. If they had a white colleague who said something "off base" about black people, would they disown him? No, they'd keep on chugging their beers. What if it is their brother, father, sister, uncle, or a good "friend"? Examine the authors of all these negative articles, and it wouldn't surprise me that they are all white. They are the ones who perpetuate the race card. Look at them and ask yourselves, "Do these people sincerely want to bridge the gap?" Do they even understand the gap? Obama's relationship with Wright is more than a few seconds of sound bite. It is not Wright's offensive and ill conceived comments, it is the anger and frustration it represents. This is the message that Obama receives. And this is the reality of the black experience in America. This is the gap that Obama is trying to close. Look at Obama's character and courage. Many understand this. Some, like Mr. Krauthammer, may never.

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Mar 21, 11:06 AM
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likewhoa Wrote:
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> It appears that Charles is one of the members of
> the media who declined Barack's invitation to an
> honest adult dialouge on race in the US, and has
> decided to treat it as spectacle and distraction.


likewhoa....ah, like no.

Charles is simply breaking down Obama's speech to 'keep it real'. A. Moral Equivalence and B. White Guilt.

Instead of explaining WHY he chose Mr. Wright as his spiritual adviser, he explained why Mr. Wright is angry. Debating 101: If you are beat on the merits, change the subject (white guilt/moral equivalence). He failed miserably on the moral equivalence attempt....'white grandma' as "typical white person" and the correlation b/t GDF's comments and Mr. Wright's. But, I am afraid, he will be using 'White Guilt' whenever is necessary.

Obama did not apologize once or take any responsibility for his CHOICE to have this angry "Reverend" Wright be his spiritual adviser and that is a huge opportunity missed my friends.

BTW, why is 'white' the only word you can fit b/t typical and person and not be banished from politics?

Also, I believe we heard a similar non-apologetic, 'shame on the media' soliloquy in the '91 campaign about a girl named Jennifer Flowers. Foreboding of hubris to come?

I was seriously considering voting for this man, but his campaign by-words are 'HOPE' and 'CHANGE', he and his spiritual adviser are giving more of THE SAME.

Posted by: Fraud Detector  
Mar 21, 11:07 AM
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This article is a fraud. Too many pundits are imposing their own (false) values in a way that is irresponsible. Simply put, they want to inflame others. If they had a white colleague who said something "off base" about black people, would they disown him? No, they'd keep on chugging their beers. What if it is their brother, father, sister, uncle, or a good "friend"? Examine the authors of all these negative articles, and it wouldn't surprise me that they are all white. They are the ones who perpetuate the race card. Look at them and ask yourselves, "Do these people sincerely want to bridge the gap?" Do they even understand the gap? Obama's relationship with Wright is more than a few seconds of sound bite. It is not Wright's offensive and ill conceived comments, it is the anger and frustration it represents. This is the message that Obama receives. And this is the reality of the black experience in America. This is the gap that Obama is trying to close. Look at Obama's character and courage. Many understand this. Some, like Mr. Krauthammer, may never.

Posted by: Mike C  
Mar 21, 11:08 AM
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I agree with your analysis charles. Obama never explained or at least it was not apparent to me what made him be part of a church that preaches this kind of philosophy. Anti american, racist and instead of preaching self empowerment like many other black churches do, this church teaches that America and Whites owe black something. He certainly used the race card and the white guilt. After telling the public for more than a year that he transcends race and divisions it comes down to the fact that he is a regular opportunist politician using whatever he can to convince and excuse people and to win. I would like to know what took him so long to dennounce his pastor and his philosophy. More importantly, I want to know how his policies as president will be affected by his own believes and sharing of mr. Wright philosophy. I don't believe for a second that Obama does not agree with mr. Wright. If he doesn't why is he Obama's spiritual mentor and why does Obama exposes his family including two young daughters to this kind of teachings.
I have visited at least three black churches in NY and none of them preach this kind of stuff. The comparison to his grandmother? very out there. His judgement as president should really be questioned, after his involvemnet with this church philosophy for so long.
He might as well win the Democratic nomination since the superdelegates seems to be a bunch of whimps affraid to offend the black community, however he is certain to lose against Mcain. The republican sank John kerry with the Swift Boat ad in 2004 claiming that he was unpatriotic and this was a war hero, just imagine what they are going to do with this Obama and Wright stuff.
As we can see from the polls not from the TV pundits this is not going well with regular middle of the road American.

Posted by: judith abrams  
Mar 21, 11:10 AM
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As E.J. Dione pointed out today even Martin L. King made comments against the viet-nam war
that could be construed as unpatriotic. The point is when the United States goes to war or
attacks people, the right wing construes dissent as unpatriotic. It is time to end this. We must
understand that many black people are angry with good reason. We should reach out
to them not condemn them. As long as the right-wing can keep the country divided,
they can continue to divy up the profits in good times and ask for government help
in bad times.

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Mar 21, 11:13 AM
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JWilson Wrote: post # 216
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Wilson, you can’t possibly believe that Rev. Wright’s comments were impulsive. TUCC admits on their own website that their doctrinal ideologies are founded in the hate filled Black Liberation Theology of James Hal Cone.

Posted by: Ibrahim Syed  
Mar 21, 11:15 AM
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Krauthammer is a regular contributor on Fox News. Fox News in turn has regularly featured the commentary of Ann Coulter, and plugged her books. She, in turn, has voiced support for bombing the NY Times building, she's made repeated racist remarks against Muslims including saying they should be killed or converted to Christianity, and even made remarks directed at Jews suggesting they should convert. I don't recall Krauthammer or Sean Hannity contesting the promotion of that vile woman on their network. Far from it, Hannity, on his program Hannity & Colmes, makes it a point to defend Coulter's views. Can you say "hypocrite"?

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Mar 21, 11:17 AM
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judith abrams Wrote:
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> As E.J. Dione pointed out today even Martin L.
> King made comments against the viet-nam war
> that could be construed as unpatriotic. The point
> is when the United States goes to war or
> attacks people, the right wing construes dissent
> as unpatriotic. It is time to end this. We must
> understand that many black people are angry with
> good reason. We should reach out
> to them not condemn them. As long as the
> right-wing can keep the country divided,
> they can continue to divy up the profits in good
> times and ask for government help
> in bad times.

And that's exactly what Obama has given the Right wing-the perfect antidote.

Posted by: John Adams  
Mar 21, 11:18 AM
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It turns out Pastor Wright was preaching against racism. The whole sermon is here. Words taken out of context can be damgerous indeed. Now that they have killed him, what are they going to do to restore his reputation

[www.rolandsmartin.com]

Posted by: HutchTX  
Mar 21, 11:18 AM
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Rev. Wright has more to say on the website:

"Black liberation theology defines Africans and African Americans as subjects – not the objects which colonizers and oppressors have consistently defined “others” as.

• We [African Americans] were always seen as objects. When we started defining ourselves, it scared those who try to control others by naming them and defining them for them; Oppressors do not like “others” defining themselves."

Posted by: jeff, oklahoma  
Mar 21, 11:21 AM
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Take a reality pill people. Obama made this "great speech" to save his bid at the nomination. He continued to, open mouth insert foot here, with his most recent line "like most white people." Can only imagine the outrage that would be shown by the many Obama-kooks had HRC thrown out the comment "like most black people."
Do you really think that Obama draws over 90% of the African-American vote because he is the best candidate? because he has shown stellar decision making ability? because he has an outstanding legislative background? because he has shown himself to be above political corruption? to be above racially divisive politics? When met with the sudden realization that he could become 'the black candidate' he now embraces his multi-racialism like Linus with the blue blanket. The same multi-racialism he rejected when in his formulative college years. He discards his preachers hate filled words only after he has failed to throw the blanket over the flames with his lies... the night before on multiple network interviews nonetheless. He played the race card and lost.... just look at the polls if you need any proof on how this played among the electorate... a royal flush!
The talking heads can place him on a pedestal but the people will bring him tumbling down.
God Bless America... the greatest country on earth.

Posted by: HutchTX  
Mar 21, 11:22 AM
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This seems to mirror BOs socialist-collectivist-redistribution of wealth-based ideology.

"10. A congregation working towards ECONOMIC PARITY."

Posted by: Greg W.  
Mar 21, 11:25 AM
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By far the best commentary I've seen on Obama's lecture...I mean speech. We didn't need a history lesson on racism in America. We needed to hear exactly why Senator Obama disapproved of the hateful, anti-American rhetoric being preached by his Pastor and long time advisor. And can someone please tell me how "God @#$%& America" and "the USKKKA" can be taken out of context. The argument that we only saw excerpts of Pastor Wright's sermons and his words were taken out of context is ridiculous.

If the Wright controversy does not cost Obama the nomination, it will certainly cost him in November.

Posted by: Rockyspoon  
Mar 21, 11:26 AM
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Bathrobe Sage Wrote:
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> First, Charles Krauthammer was trained as a
> psychiatrist, not as a newsman. He is an opinion
> page columnist. He was hired to express his
> conservative views for public consumption. He does
> this well enough to have won a 1987 Pulitzer Prize
> for Commentary, not for News Reporting,
> Investigative Reporting or any other kind of
> reporting. He is not obliged to present facts or
> evidence, though it is more impressive when he
> does, only to express his opinion. He apparently
> does this well enough to be paid handsomely for
> writing his newspaper column and for voicing his
> views on various 'talking head' television
> programs. He has every right to do what he does
> and get paid handsomely for it.
>
> I am a septuagenarian and have in my lifetime
> heard excellent speeches delivered by Franklin D.
> Roosevelt, Dwight Eisenhower, Ronald Reagan, Adlai
> Stevenson, Martin Luther King, Jr., Mario Cuomo,
> Billy Graham and John F. Kennedy, among others.
> The Obama speech in Philadelphia ranks right up
> there with those, equal if not better.
>
> When Mr. Krauthammer's columns, including the one
> discussed here, have been either shredded and
> forgotten or otherwise consigned to the dustbins
> of history, Barack Obama's Philadelphia speech is
> likely to remain alive and well, quoted and
> referenced generations from now as a classic
> summation of racism and bigotry in the United
> States at the dawn of the 21st Century. This is
> the truth that Mr. Krauthammer knows full well,
> but finds difficult to fully digest.


Boy oh boy, I hope Bathrobe Sage is absolutely right, for the longer Obama's speech is out there, the more it begins to appear like a disaster, so keep it there at least until he is no longer a candidate. The liberal media have spun Obama's content with the kindness approaching a king, but now that more and more people have had a chance to evaluate it, think about it, and discern the true meaning behind Obama and his speech, the less enamored they are about it.

For some further enlightenment, consider:

[www.washingtontimes.com]

and

[www.humanevents.com]

Personally, I don't think Obama has the experience or depth necessary to be CEO of the USA. His hypocricy is now fully exposed and his chances for election eliminated.

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Mar 21, 11:30 AM
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HutchTX Wrote: post 226
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Look deeper please, into the doctrines TUCC claims to be founded on; the Theology of James Hal Cone:

"To be Christian is to be one of those whom God has chosen. God has chosen black people!" [Black Theology and Black Power, pp. 139-140].

"It is important to make a further distinction here among black hatred, black racism, and Black Power. Black hatred is the black man's strong aversion to white society. No black man living in white America can escape it...But the charge of black racism cannot be reconciled with the facts. While it is true that blacks do hate whites, black hatred is not racism. Racism, according to Webster, is 'the assumption that psychocultural traits and capacities are determined by biological race and that races differ decisively from one another, which is usually coupled with a belief in the inherent superiority of a particular race and its rights to dominance over others.' Where are the examples among blacks in which they sought to assert their right to dominance over others because of a belief in black superiority?...Black Power is an affirmation of the humanity of blacks in spite of white racism. It says that only blacks really know the extent of white oppression, and thus only blacks are prepared to risk all to be free." [Black Theology and Black Power, p. 14-16]

"All white men are responsible for white oppression. It is much too easy to say, "Racism is not my fault," or "I am not responsible for the country's inhumanity to the black man...But insofar as white do-gooders tolerate and sponsor racism in their educational institutions, their political, economic and social structures, their churches, and in every other aspect of American life, they are directly responsible for racism...Racism is possible because whites are indifferent to suffering and patient with cruelty. Karl Jaspers' description of metaphysical guilt is pertinent here. 'There exists among men, because they are men, a solidarity through which each shares responsibility for every injustice and every wrong committed in the world, and especially for crimes that are committed in his presence or of which he cannot be ignorant.' " [Black Theology and Black Power, p. 24]

"For the gospel proclaims that God is with us now, actively fighting the forces which would make man captive. And it is the task of theology and the Church to know where God is at work so that we can join him in this fight against evil. In America we know where the evil is. We know that men are shot and lynched. We know that men are crammed into ghettos...There is a constant battle between Christ and Satan, and it is going on now. If we make this message contemporaneous with our own life situation, what does Christ's defeat of Satan mean for us?...The demonic forces of racism are real for the black man. Theologically, Malcolm X was not far wrong when he called the white man "the devil." The white structure of this American society, personified in every racist, must be at least part of what the New Testament meant by the demonic forces." [Black Theology and Black Power, pp. 39-41]

"Racism is a complete denial of the Incarnation and thus of Christianity...If there is any contemporary meaning of the Antichrist (or "the principalities and powers"), the white church seems to be a manifestation of it. It was the white "Christian" church which took the lead in establishing slavery as an institution and segregation as a pattern in society by sanctioning all-white congregations." [Black Theology and Black Power, p. 73]

"Black theology cannot accept a view of God which does not represent God as being for oppressed blacks and thus against white oppressors. Living in a world of white oppressors, blacks have no time for a neutral God. The brutalities are too great and the pain too severe, and this means we must know where God is and what God is doing in the revolution. There is no use for a God who loves white oppressors the same as oppressed blacks. We have had too much of white love, the love that tells blacks to turn the other cheek and go the second mile. What we need is the divine love as expressed in black power, which is the power of blacks to destroy their oppressors, here and now, by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject God's love." [A Black Theology of Liberation, p. 70]

Posted by: Go Mr. K  
Mar 21, 11:30 AM
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Krauthammer nails the central issue again. In a sea of foggy minded pundits, Krauthammer offers well reasoned opinion and fresh persepctive. He is lucid and cogent. We need more analysis from Mr. K. I sure wish he was not a Republican because he could really help the cause. Maybe Republicans aren't so dumb after all.

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WSH Wrote:
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> JWilson Wrote: post # 216
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> Wilson, you can’t possibly believe that Rev.
> Wright’s comments were impulsive. TUCC admits on
> their own website that their doctrinal ideologies
> are founded in the hate filled Black Liberation
> Theology of James Hal Cone.

Just for our edification, here is a sample from Mr. Cone's feel good writings in Black Power and Black Theology:

"Cone is known as the founder of black theology — a philosophy Cone first laid out in BLACK POWER AND BLACK THEOLOGY in 1969:

As we examine what contemporary theologians are saying, we find that they are silent about the enslaved condition of black people. Evidently they see no relationship between black slavery and the Christian gospel. Consequently there has been no sharp confrontation of the gospel with white racism. There is, then, a desperate need for a black theology, a theology whose sole purpose is to apply the freeing power of the gospel to black people under white oppression."

Rev. Wright says this on the TUCC website:
"The vision statement of Trinity United Church of Christ is based upon the systematized liberation theology that started in 1969 with the publication of Dr. James Cone’s book, Black Power and Black Theology."

Posted by: Rockyspoon  
Mar 21, 11:32 AM
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Ibrahim Syed Wrote:
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> Krauthammer is a regular contributor on Fox News.
> Fox News in turn has regularly featured the
> commentary of Ann Coulter, and plugged her books.
> She, in turn, has voiced support for bombing the
> NY Times building, she's made repeated racist
> remarks against Muslims including saying they
> should be killed or converted to Christianity, and
> even made remarks directed at Jews suggesting they
> should convert. I don't recall Krauthammer or Sean
> Hannity contesting the promotion of that vile
> woman on their network. Far from it, Hannity, on
> his program Hannity & Colmes, makes it a point to
> defend Coulter's views. Can you say "hypocrite"?

And Ann Coulter is not running for president. Should she be running for president, her words would catch up to her just as Obama's have caught up to him. Don't equate the two; it is an illogical comparison.

Posted by: LC  
Mar 21, 11:37 AM
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If Obama could only love someone beside himself. His speech was a magnificent display of selfishness. Only Obama can heal the divide, not the people, that is why he believes he is the best candidate for president.

This guy is a joke on legs. His arrogance is breathtaking. He even throws his own grandmother in the dirt. But hey, she is a typical white person, just like the rest of those silly Americans out there.

This man does not love his country, only his mirror.

Spread the Word:

Obama the fraud.

Posted by: HutchTX  
Mar 21, 11:42 AM
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Rev. Wright says this on the TUCC website:
"The vision statement of Trinity United Church of Christ is based upon the systematized liberation theology that started in 1969 with the publication of Dr. James Cone’s book, Black Power and Black Theology."

In addition to the great stuff WSH posted above I would add from Cone's book:

"The appearance of black theology on the American scene then is due primarily to the failure of white religionists to relate the gospel of Jesus to the pain of being black in a white racist society. It arises from the need of blacks to liberate themselves from white oppressors."

I wonder if Barry read this book? Controversial? -YES. Racist? - YES.

Posted by: Michael1962  
Mar 21, 11:45 AM
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In an answer to the questions posed by the article....because BHO is full of crap....period. Just another slimey politician......

Posted by: Jeff V.  
Mar 21, 11:46 AM
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Here's a story for you all. FOX News made a point of trimming off Rev. Wright's infamous "chickens coming home to roost" sermon so you wouldn't know his source -- Edward Peck, former U.S. Ambassador to Iraq and deputy director of President Reagan’s terrorism task force who used the same language on FOX News!

So FOX didn't want the voters to know that Rev. Wright got his line from a white Republican speaking on FOX?? Well, whyever could THAT be??

[ac360.blogs.cnn.com]
[www.rolandsmartin.com]


FOX News and Charles Krauthammer -- A Brilliant Fraud!

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Mar 21, 11:46 AM
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Jupiter Wilson Wrote:
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> How dare you call Senator Obama's speech a fraud?
> When a person has the courage to bar his soul in
> public in an honest and compassionate way, you
> have the termerity to dissect and dismiss the very
> essence of his message - the need to examine the
> racism within each of us. Perhaps it makes you
> uncomfortable to do so. You could learn much from
> Mike Huckabee's response yesterday.




Yes Jupie, how dare we question the man who wants to be president for sitting in the pew at a racist church. How dare we. He did not bare his soul he bared his ambition. He was more concerned about getting elected then and now so he played the race card and it looks like he got caught double dealing.

If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. If it stops moving, subsidize it. The law of the land for liberals.

Posted by: HutchTX  
Mar 21, 11:49 AM
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But wait, there is more from Dr. Cone's book:

"Wright's ministry is founded on the black theology that Cone helped to create.
"To be Christian is to be one of those whom God has chosen. God has chosen black people." [Black Theology and Black Power, pp. 139-140].
"While it is true that blacks do hate whites, black hatred is not racism." [Black Theology and Black Power, p. 15]
"All white men are responsible for white oppression." [Black Theology and Black Power, p. 24]
"Theologically, Malcolm X was not far wrong when he called the white man "the devil." [Black Theology and Black Power, p. 40]
"If there is any contemporary meaning of the Antichrist, the white church seems to be a manifestation of it." [Black Theology and Black Power, p. 73"