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Uncle Sam,
Please don't get caught up with the right wing's hysteria. You are a McCain man. The best way to win this election is by playing up McCain's atributes, not tearing down his opponent. This will all backfire and ensure Obama an even wider win.
Please don't get caught up with the right wing's hysteria. You are a McCain man. The best way to win this election is by playing up McCain's atributes, not tearing down his opponent. This will all backfire and ensure Obama an even wider win.
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> So, based on the numbers shown above, if Bush
> Administration invested our social security money
> into stock in beginning of 2001 which he proposed,
> would have lost 28.3% (based on S&P 500 index) by
> now, and might have been worthless if his
> administration invested that same in financial
> sector.
So much ignorance, it's scary. This is why we can't have any honest discussion of policies, because people fall for the misinformation of the Democratic Party, and can't research anything on their own.
First of all, Bush's plan wouldn't move existing Social Security money in the trust fund to stocks -- it would be impossible to do so anyway, since the trust fund is filled with I.O.U.s, not cash. Second of all, Bush's plan doesn't apply to anyone currently nearing retirement (basically anyone over 50). So people currently counting on Social Security in the short term wouldn't have been affected in the slightest. Third, and MOST IMPORTANTLY, the program was VOLUNTARY!!! You could opt out of it if you wanted the original plan. Fourth, the Bush Administration is not investing the money -- the PEOPLE choose how to invest the money. The people could invest their money in whatever they want, including 100% safe Treasury Bonds or CDs, instead of stocks. Or keep the existing plan if they prefer. Fifth, the Bush plan only lets you invest a small percentage of your Social Security money, it doesn't completely replace it. Even if your investments drop to zero, you still get a check from the government. Your entire sentence is completely false propaganda, fear mongering.
When considering retirement savings, you have to think long term, not short term. If you look at history, lets say you were the worlds unluckiest person and started investing for retirement right at the peak of the stock market before the Great Depression, where stocks fell 90% over the next three years. Even with the huge losses you'd see in the short term, by the time you retired, you'd still earn around a 3.5% annualized return (after inflation) by the time you retired 40 years later (average stock returns are closer to 7% after inflation). If you died before collecting benefits, you could leave your account to your children, creating real inheritable wealth. Unlike current Social Security, where the money you paid in disappears.
> I hope people understand what is at stake
> now. I believe people are worried about their
> retirement saving and social security and that is
> the real issue we are facing today.
Even if McCain gets elected, he's facing a huge Democratic majority Congress. Bush couldn't pass private accounts with a Republican majority. There's NO WAY private accounts are going to be passed by this legislature. The public simply doesn't support private accounts enough for politicians to risk voting for it, even Republicans. It's called Democracy. Just because a politician believes in something, doesn't mean it's going to become law -- there needs to be consensus and public support.
Regarding your other points, Biden proved himself a foreign policy idiot in the debates with all his mistakes. At least Palin admits she's not an expert on it, I'd rather have someone that realizes the limits of their own knowledge, than someone who's outright wrong and doesn't know it. Your cost figure for the Iraq war is too high (it's $120 billion/year, not $300 billion/year). I'm not saying that's good, just that your number is wrong. Either candidate will end up reducing troop deployments in Iraq because we're finally winning. Obama may do it slightly faster, but we're not looking at a major difference in their policies. Obama plans to send more troops into Afghanistan.
> I started liking Obama recently an willing to take
> him as my president because of his cool headed
> approach to the crisis (similar to President
> Kennedy during the Cuban missile crisis)
Kennedy was strong on foreign policy, a hawk. Obama is no Kennedy. His whole primary campaign was based on pacifism and defeat in Iraq, and he opposed the surge.
> surrounded by well respected economists like
> Robert Rubin, et al.
Robert Rubin supported deregulation (the repeal of the Glass Steagall Act by Clinton). Some of the same deregulation that everyone is blaming on the Republicans. I'm just reiterating the point I've been making repeatedly on the boards that the financial crisis was created by politicians (and influential bankers and economic experts) of both parties. Even Obama's top economic adviser.
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> So, based on the numbers shown above, if Bush
> Administration invested our social security money
> into stock in beginning of 2001 which he proposed,
> would have lost 28.3% (based on S&P 500 index) by
> now, and might have been worthless if his
> administration invested that same in financial
> sector.
So much ignorance, it's scary. This is why we can't have any honest discussion of policies, because people fall for the misinformation of the Democratic Party, and can't research anything on their own.
First of all, Bush's plan wouldn't move existing Social Security money in the trust fund to stocks -- it would be impossible to do so anyway, since the trust fund is filled with I.O.U.s, not cash. Second of all, Bush's plan doesn't apply to anyone currently nearing retirement (basically anyone over 50). So people currently counting on Social Security in the short term wouldn't have been affected in the slightest. Third, and MOST IMPORTANTLY, the program was VOLUNTARY!!! You could opt out of it if you wanted the original plan. Fourth, the Bush Administration is not investing the money -- the PEOPLE choose how to invest the money. The people could invest their money in whatever they want, including 100% safe Treasury Bonds or CDs, instead of stocks. Or keep the existing plan if they prefer. Fifth, the Bush plan only lets you invest a small percentage of your Social Security money, it doesn't completely replace it. Even if your investments drop to zero, you still get a check from the government. Your entire sentence is completely false propaganda, fear mongering.
When considering retirement savings, you have to think long term, not short term. If you look at history, lets say you were the worlds unluckiest person and started investing for retirement right at the peak of the stock market before the Great Depression, where stocks fell 90% over the next three years. Even with the huge losses you'd see in the short term, by the time you retired, you'd still earn around a 3.5% annualized return (after inflation) by the time you retired 40 years later (average stock returns are closer to 7% after inflation). If you died before collecting benefits, you could leave your account to your children, creating real inheritable wealth. Unlike current Social Security, where the money you paid in disappears.
> I hope people understand what is at stake
> now. I believe people are worried about their
> retirement saving and social security and that is
> the real issue we are facing today.
Even if McCain gets elected, he's facing a huge Democratic majority Congress. Bush couldn't pass private accounts with a Republican majority. There's NO WAY private accounts are going to be passed by this legislature. The public simply doesn't support private accounts enough for politicians to risk voting for it, even Republicans. It's called Democracy. Just because a politician believes in something, doesn't mean it's going to become law -- there needs to be consensus and public support.
Regarding your other points, Biden proved himself a foreign policy idiot in the debates with all his mistakes. At least Palin admits she's not an expert on it, I'd rather have someone that realizes the limits of their own knowledge, than someone who's outright wrong and doesn't know it. Your cost figure for the Iraq war is too high (it's $120 billion/year, not $300 billion/year). I'm not saying that's good, just that your number is wrong. Either candidate will end up reducing troop deployments in Iraq because we're finally winning. Obama may do it slightly faster, but we're not looking at a major difference in their policies. Obama plans to send more troops into Afghanistan.
> I started liking Obama recently an willing to take
> him as my president because of his cool headed
> approach to the crisis (similar to President
> Kennedy during the Cuban missile crisis)
Kennedy was strong on foreign policy, a hawk. Obama is no Kennedy. His whole primary campaign was based on pacifism and defeat in Iraq, and he opposed the surge.
> surrounded by well respected economists like
> Robert Rubin, et al.
Robert Rubin supported deregulation (the repeal of the Glass Steagall Act by Clinton). Some of the same deregulation that everyone is blaming on the Republicans. I'm just reiterating the point I've been making repeatedly on the boards that the financial crisis was created by politicians (and influential bankers and economic experts) of both parties. Even Obama's top economic adviser.
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> Don't you get it yet? That this is not simply
> about Barack Obama's radical "associations"?
>
> When a presidential candidate has had a Communist
> mentor in Frank Marshall Davis in Hawaii as a
> young adult, and has gone on to have a Socialist
> role model in Saul Alinsky and be inspired to work
> for ACORN, and has joined a church like TUCC with
> a Black Liberation Theology headed by a militant
> pastor in Rev. Jeremiah Wright where he has
> befriended others like Father Michael Pfleger, and
> has joined in the work of unrepentant terrorist
> William Ayers by attempting to radicalize the
> school system, it does not require a genius to
> connect the dots and realize that this candidate
> possesses a radical agenda.
>
> Barack Obama has been telling us in not-so-subtle
> ways throughout his career what his plans are. It
> is up to us to pay attention. And then act.
Uncle Sam:
You forgot Mr. Obama's love of Malcom X; the reason Mr. Obama changed his name back to Barack Hussein Obama.
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> Don't you get it yet? That this is not simply
> about Barack Obama's radical "associations"?
>
> When a presidential candidate has had a Communist
> mentor in Frank Marshall Davis in Hawaii as a
> young adult, and has gone on to have a Socialist
> role model in Saul Alinsky and be inspired to work
> for ACORN, and has joined a church like TUCC with
> a Black Liberation Theology headed by a militant
> pastor in Rev. Jeremiah Wright where he has
> befriended others like Father Michael Pfleger, and
> has joined in the work of unrepentant terrorist
> William Ayers by attempting to radicalize the
> school system, it does not require a genius to
> connect the dots and realize that this candidate
> possesses a radical agenda.
>
> Barack Obama has been telling us in not-so-subtle
> ways throughout his career what his plans are. It
> is up to us to pay attention. And then act.
Uncle Sam:
You forgot Mr. Obama's love of Malcom X; the reason Mr. Obama changed his name back to Barack Hussein Obama.
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Cyrillic - thanks for the summary. We must all do our part to ensure our fellow Americans are fully apprised of McCain's past, his views, and his association with convicts Keating and G. Gordon Liddy.
Even McCain PUBLICLY acknowledges his continuing and thorough-going support for G. Gordon Liddy, and the principles convicted felon G. Gordon Liddy stands for:
George Gordon Battle Liddy (born November 30, 1930) was the chief operative for the White House Plumbers unit that existed during several years of Richard Nixon's Presidency. Along with E. Howard Hunt, Liddy masterminded the first break-in of the Democratic National Committee headquarters in the Watergate building in 1972. The subsequent cover-up of the Watergate scandal led to Nixon's resignation in 1974; Liddy served four and a half years in prison for his role in the burglary.
Even McCain PUBLICLY acknowledges his continuing and thorough-going support for G. Gordon Liddy, and the principles convicted felon G. Gordon Liddy stands for:
George Gordon Battle Liddy (born November 30, 1930) was the chief operative for the White House Plumbers unit that existed during several years of Richard Nixon's Presidency. Along with E. Howard Hunt, Liddy masterminded the first break-in of the Democratic National Committee headquarters in the Watergate building in 1972. The subsequent cover-up of the Watergate scandal led to Nixon's resignation in 1974; Liddy served four and a half years in prison for his role in the burglary.
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Uncle Sam Wrote:
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> Don't you get it yet? That this is not simply
> about Barack Obama's radical "associations"?
>
> When a presidential candidate has had a Communist
> mentor in Frank Marshall Davis in Hawaii as a
> young adult, and has gone on to have a Socialist
> role model in Saul Alinsky and be inspired to work
> for ACORN, and has joined a church like TUCC with
> a Black Liberation Theology headed by a militant
> pastor in Rev. Jeremiah Wright where he has
> befriended others like Father Michael Pfleger, and
> has joined in the work of unrepentant terrorist
> William Ayers by attempting to radicalize the
> school system, it does not require a genius to
> connect the dots and realize that this candidate
> possesses a radical agenda.
>
> Barack Obama has been telling us in not-so-subtle
> ways throughout his career what his plans are. It
> is up to us to pay attention. And then act.
OOOOOOOooooo we are scared....
Talk about your conspiracy theorists.
Doesn't anyone know where I can purchase one of those foil hat online?
If we weren't in such a serious times, this would be funny. We are at war in 2 places, we have a looming financial crisis, and all you can come up with is theories about what happens to a person's personality when he associates with certain people. None of this is proven in his PERFORMANCE, in his life.
We need PERFORMANCE.
We haven't gotten performance out of a GOP congress - they doubled our debt and fueled partisan rancor
We haven't gotten performance out of a GOP President - 27% job approval, enough said
We have an activist Conservative court - Bush V Gore 2000
We need to change to someone who can perform. Obama has proven that with his life, while McCain is suspect.
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> Don't you get it yet? That this is not simply
> about Barack Obama's radical "associations"?
>
> When a presidential candidate has had a Communist
> mentor in Frank Marshall Davis in Hawaii as a
> young adult, and has gone on to have a Socialist
> role model in Saul Alinsky and be inspired to work
> for ACORN, and has joined a church like TUCC with
> a Black Liberation Theology headed by a militant
> pastor in Rev. Jeremiah Wright where he has
> befriended others like Father Michael Pfleger, and
> has joined in the work of unrepentant terrorist
> William Ayers by attempting to radicalize the
> school system, it does not require a genius to
> connect the dots and realize that this candidate
> possesses a radical agenda.
>
> Barack Obama has been telling us in not-so-subtle
> ways throughout his career what his plans are. It
> is up to us to pay attention. And then act.
OOOOOOOooooo we are scared....
Talk about your conspiracy theorists.
Doesn't anyone know where I can purchase one of those foil hat online?
If we weren't in such a serious times, this would be funny. We are at war in 2 places, we have a looming financial crisis, and all you can come up with is theories about what happens to a person's personality when he associates with certain people. None of this is proven in his PERFORMANCE, in his life.
We need PERFORMANCE.
We haven't gotten performance out of a GOP congress - they doubled our debt and fueled partisan rancor
We haven't gotten performance out of a GOP President - 27% job approval, enough said
We have an activist Conservative court - Bush V Gore 2000
We need to change to someone who can perform. Obama has proven that with his life, while McCain is suspect.
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The Keating Five scandal twenty years ago is valid in John McCain was personally involved, and it shows a pattern for him that is still evident in his behavior.
Moreoever, this is one of the most critical moments in our history from the standpoint of the economy. Millions have lost their jobs and/or had their homes foreclosed on them, and millions more are facing the same in the near future. In the midst of this John McCain wants to try to change the subject and talk about what some stupid black radical did thirty or forty years ago (somebody who turned himself in and is now a college professor working on positive change for his community). Choosing Palin was an absurd bungle on McCain's side, and now this.
Time for Michelle Obama to start measuring the White House curtains.
Moreoever, this is one of the most critical moments in our history from the standpoint of the economy. Millions have lost their jobs and/or had their homes foreclosed on them, and millions more are facing the same in the near future. In the midst of this John McCain wants to try to change the subject and talk about what some stupid black radical did thirty or forty years ago (somebody who turned himself in and is now a college professor working on positive change for his community). Choosing Palin was an absurd bungle on McCain's side, and now this.
Time for Michelle Obama to start measuring the White House curtains.
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Uncle Sam Wrote:
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> Don't you get it yet? That this is not simply
> about Barack Obama's radical "associations"?
>
> When a presidential candidate has had a Communist
> mentor in Frank Marshall Davis in Hawaii as a
> young adult, and has gone on to have a Socialist
> role model in Saul Alinsky and be inspired to work
> for ACORN, and has joined a church like TUCC with
> a Black Liberation Theology headed by a militant
> pastor in Rev. Jeremiah Wright where he has
> befriended others like Father Michael Pfleger, and
> has joined in the work of unrepentant terrorist
> William Ayers by attempting to radicalize the
> school system, it does not require a genius to
> connect the dots and realize that this candidate
> possesses a radical agenda.
>
> Barack Obama has been telling us in not-so-subtle
> ways throughout his career what his plans are. It
> is up to us to pay attention. And then act.
Uncle Sam,
DOn't attempt to radicalize Obama. He is not a radical. Chicago is a leftist political town and he happened to start his political career there. He was precisely popular at the Harvard Law Review for his ability to work with both conservatives and liberals at Harvard. YOu will never admit that he is more mainstream than even Sarah Palin whose husband even belonged to a party that thinks the US is evil.
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> Don't you get it yet? That this is not simply
> about Barack Obama's radical "associations"?
>
> When a presidential candidate has had a Communist
> mentor in Frank Marshall Davis in Hawaii as a
> young adult, and has gone on to have a Socialist
> role model in Saul Alinsky and be inspired to work
> for ACORN, and has joined a church like TUCC with
> a Black Liberation Theology headed by a militant
> pastor in Rev. Jeremiah Wright where he has
> befriended others like Father Michael Pfleger, and
> has joined in the work of unrepentant terrorist
> William Ayers by attempting to radicalize the
> school system, it does not require a genius to
> connect the dots and realize that this candidate
> possesses a radical agenda.
>
> Barack Obama has been telling us in not-so-subtle
> ways throughout his career what his plans are. It
> is up to us to pay attention. And then act.
Uncle Sam,
DOn't attempt to radicalize Obama. He is not a radical. Chicago is a leftist political town and he happened to start his political career there. He was precisely popular at the Harvard Law Review for his ability to work with both conservatives and liberals at Harvard. YOu will never admit that he is more mainstream than even Sarah Palin whose husband even belonged to a party that thinks the US is evil.
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When was the last time a Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, or Glenn Beck came into the inner city to lend a helping hand or help inspire young black and Latinos, or their parents? Are these people not Americans?
When was the last time Oprah did this ?
When was the last time Oprah did this ?
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> Tolerance for Intolerance:
>
> The McCain campaign has chosen to ignore what went
> on in Florida yesterday as if race is not an issue
> in this campaign(Palin rally)...
>
> A law enforcement official calling Obama
> "Hussein"
>
> The crowd yelling "terrorist" and "kill him".
>
> An Afro-American camera man being called "boy"
>
> The reporters covering the rally called
> intimidated..kinda reminds you of the days of the
> civil rights movement?
>
> Again, the McCain campaign brushes it aside and
> says "that's not what we want to talk
> about"--Tucker Bounds
>
> Oh really?....so you tolerate this behavior and
> say it is not important? This is not playing the
> race card but calling it what it is---blatant and
> overt racism sanctioned by the McCain campaign.
>
> Fox is not covering it....neither is the main
> stream media but it is out there...now does that
> make you proud to be an American?
mgk:
There is racism is every race. Just look at the 95% of blacks voting for Mr. Obama just because he is black. What is the Obama campaign doing about the racist blacks, hispanics and whites?
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> Tolerance for Intolerance:
>
> The McCain campaign has chosen to ignore what went
> on in Florida yesterday as if race is not an issue
> in this campaign(Palin rally)...
>
> A law enforcement official calling Obama
> "Hussein"
>
> The crowd yelling "terrorist" and "kill him".
>
> An Afro-American camera man being called "boy"
>
> The reporters covering the rally called
> intimidated..kinda reminds you of the days of the
> civil rights movement?
>
> Again, the McCain campaign brushes it aside and
> says "that's not what we want to talk
> about"--Tucker Bounds
>
> Oh really?....so you tolerate this behavior and
> say it is not important? This is not playing the
> race card but calling it what it is---blatant and
> overt racism sanctioned by the McCain campaign.
>
> Fox is not covering it....neither is the main
> stream media but it is out there...now does that
> make you proud to be an American?
mgk:
There is racism is every race. Just look at the 95% of blacks voting for Mr. Obama just because he is black. What is the Obama campaign doing about the racist blacks, hispanics and whites?
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You are the most passionate uninformed individual I have read in quite some time.
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> Paranoid fantasy? Or forthcoming reality.
>
> Why has the media completely ignored this active
> court case Berg vs. Obama
>
> Here's the docket:
> [dockets.justia.com]
> _no-2:2008cv04083/case_id-281573/
>
> Why did the media question McCain's citizenship,
> but have ignored Obama's credentials.
They didn't and they didn't. The MSM have unanimously agreed that attacking either McCain's or Obama's citizenship is silly, and they have also agreed that a "natural born" citizen is a any American who's a citizen by birth. Which would cover the real McCain born outside the US as well as the fantasmatic Obama born in Kenya.
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> Paranoid fantasy? Or forthcoming reality.
>
> Why has the media completely ignored this active
> court case Berg vs. Obama
>
> Here's the docket:
> [dockets.justia.com]
> _no-2:2008cv04083/case_id-281573/
>
> Why did the media question McCain's citizenship,
> but have ignored Obama's credentials.
They didn't and they didn't. The MSM have unanimously agreed that attacking either McCain's or Obama's citizenship is silly, and they have also agreed that a "natural born" citizen is a any American who's a citizen by birth. Which would cover the real McCain born outside the US as well as the fantasmatic Obama born in Kenya.
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Uncle Sam Wrote:
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> Don't you get it yet? That this is not simply
> about Barack Obama's radical "associations"?
>
> When a presidential candidate has had a Communist
> mentor in Frank Marshall Davis in Hawaii as a
> young adult, and has gone on to have a Socialist
> role model in Saul Alinsky and be inspired to work
> for ACORN, and has joined a church like TUCC with
> a Black Liberation Theology headed by a militant
> pastor in Rev. Jeremiah Wright where he has
> befriended others like Father Michael Pfleger, and
> has joined in the work of unrepentant terrorist
> William Ayers by attempting to radicalize the
> school system, it does not require a genius to
> connect the dots and realize that this candidate
> possesses a radical agenda.
>
> Barack Obama has been telling us in not-so-subtle
> ways throughout his career what his plans are. It
> is up to us to pay attention. And then act.
Sam - thanks for the summary. We must all do our part to ensure our fellow Americans are fully apprised of Obama's past, his views, and his radical agenda that would be implemented to weaken our nation. I appreciate your articulate efforts in this cause.
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> Don't you get it yet? That this is not simply
> about Barack Obama's radical "associations"?
>
> When a presidential candidate has had a Communist
> mentor in Frank Marshall Davis in Hawaii as a
> young adult, and has gone on to have a Socialist
> role model in Saul Alinsky and be inspired to work
> for ACORN, and has joined a church like TUCC with
> a Black Liberation Theology headed by a militant
> pastor in Rev. Jeremiah Wright where he has
> befriended others like Father Michael Pfleger, and
> has joined in the work of unrepentant terrorist
> William Ayers by attempting to radicalize the
> school system, it does not require a genius to
> connect the dots and realize that this candidate
> possesses a radical agenda.
>
> Barack Obama has been telling us in not-so-subtle
> ways throughout his career what his plans are. It
> is up to us to pay attention. And then act.
Sam - thanks for the summary. We must all do our part to ensure our fellow Americans are fully apprised of Obama's past, his views, and his radical agenda that would be implemented to weaken our nation. I appreciate your articulate efforts in this cause.
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Don't you get it yet? That this is not simply about Barack Obama's radical "associations"?
Uncle Sam: I get it it! It's NOT simply about Barack Obama's radical "associations", it's ALSO about McCain's involvement with Keating, and his unqualified support of G. Gordon Liddy, a convicted felon:
Even McCain acknowledges his continuing and thorough-going support for G. Gordon Liddy, and the principles convicted felon G. Gordon Liddy stands for:
George Gordon Battle Liddy (born November 30, 1930) was the chief operative for the White House Plumbers unit that existed during several years of Richard Nixon's Presidency. Along with E. Howard Hunt, Liddy masterminded the first break-in of the Democratic National Committee headquarters in the Watergate building in 1972. The subsequent cover-up of the Watergate scandal led to Nixon's resignation in 1974; Liddy served four and a half years in prison for his role in the burglary.
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Don't you get it yet? That this is not simply about Barack Obama's radical "associations"?
Uncle Sam: I get it it! It's NOT simply about Barack Obama's radical "associations", it's ALSO about McCain's involvement with Keating, and his unqualified support of G. Gordon Liddy, a convicted felon:
Even McCain acknowledges his continuing and thorough-going support for G. Gordon Liddy, and the principles convicted felon G. Gordon Liddy stands for:
George Gordon Battle Liddy (born November 30, 1930) was the chief operative for the White House Plumbers unit that existed during several years of Richard Nixon's Presidency. Along with E. Howard Hunt, Liddy masterminded the first break-in of the Democratic National Committee headquarters in the Watergate building in 1972. The subsequent cover-up of the Watergate scandal led to Nixon's resignation in 1974; Liddy served four and a half years in prison for his role in the burglary.
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The author and many others fall into the trap of defining, "change." One might think change is a change in ethics in D.C. Or in the manner in which politics is played out. I submit the change Sen. Obama is talking about is a much more fundamental change. Changing from quasi-capitalism to quasi-socialism. Read his comments and think about massive social change and the comments make much more sense.
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> If, with all the information that you've gotten
> from this forum, you still think McCain in the
> choice that is best for America. There is no
> helping you.
>
> Again, you guys voted for GWB, not once but twice.
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The Obama argument about GWB is silly:
"when looking at McCain, look into the past and see GWB, but don't look at my past at all. When thinking about ME, ignore the past, and simply focus on the future that I have painted for you...."
Forget the fact that Obama is left of both Pelosi & Reid, and their numbers are even worse than GWB... After all, the only thing that Obama will let anyone see is his leftist ideals of what he thinks the future of America should be...
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> If, with all the information that you've gotten
> from this forum, you still think McCain in the
> choice that is best for America. There is no
> helping you.
>
> Again, you guys voted for GWB, not once but twice.
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The Obama argument about GWB is silly:
"when looking at McCain, look into the past and see GWB, but don't look at my past at all. When thinking about ME, ignore the past, and simply focus on the future that I have painted for you...."
Forget the fact that Obama is left of both Pelosi & Reid, and their numbers are even worse than GWB... After all, the only thing that Obama will let anyone see is his leftist ideals of what he thinks the future of America should be...
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Paranoid fantasy? Or forthcoming reality.
Why has the media completely ignored this active court case Berg vs. Obama
Here's the docket: [dockets.justia.com]
Why did the media question McCain's citizenship, but have ignored Obama's credentials.
I suggest you study the facts of this case. It may change your opinion of Obama. If that is the name you call him.
Obama has chosen a path to delay this case. It is obvious he is hiding something. But what is he hiding?
Mike P Wrote:
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> Hawk T Wrote:
>
>
> Hawk T - whats scary is not Obama - its your
> paranoid fantasies
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Once again Thomas Sowell shows his courage by
> > telling people about the real Obama. But Sowell
> is
> > only grazing the surface on the man people call
> > Obama.
> >
> > But what is Obama's real name? Why does he have
> > another name? Why didn't Obama tell us about
> his
> > "other" names before?
> >
> > Why did Obama go to Pakistan in 1981 with an
> > Indonesian passport? Why did Obama have the
> > passport of another country if he was a citizen
> of
> > the U.S.?
> >
> > The media in general are a bunch of liberal
> > cowards afraid of being called racists.
> >
> > But, Thomas Sowell, you are a real man of
> courage
> > for doing what you do.
Why has the media completely ignored this active court case Berg vs. Obama
Here's the docket: [dockets.justia.com]
Why did the media question McCain's citizenship, but have ignored Obama's credentials.
I suggest you study the facts of this case. It may change your opinion of Obama. If that is the name you call him.
Obama has chosen a path to delay this case. It is obvious he is hiding something. But what is he hiding?
Mike P Wrote:
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> Hawk T Wrote:
>
>
> Hawk T - whats scary is not Obama - its your
> paranoid fantasies
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Once again Thomas Sowell shows his courage by
> > telling people about the real Obama. But Sowell
> is
> > only grazing the surface on the man people call
> > Obama.
> >
> > But what is Obama's real name? Why does he have
> > another name? Why didn't Obama tell us about
> his
> > "other" names before?
> >
> > Why did Obama go to Pakistan in 1981 with an
> > Indonesian passport? Why did Obama have the
> > passport of another country if he was a citizen
> of
> > the U.S.?
> >
> > The media in general are a bunch of liberal
> > cowards afraid of being called racists.
> >
> > But, Thomas Sowell, you are a real man of
> courage
> > for doing what you do.
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> The Keating 5 including 4 democrats including John
> Glenn who is now campaigning for Obama. John
> McCain was exonerated. They are a far cry from a
> terrorist bomber. Thankfully he missed and no one
> was killed. Ayers' school reform is teaching kids
> radicalism. Obama started his political career in
> Ayers living room.
> Obamas friends...Alinsky, Ayers, Acorn. We aren't
> even up to the Bs yet.
> Alot of people are going to be in for a rude
> awakening should Obama get elected. He won't be
> able to give them their utopia life they think
> they will have. He will not bring the country
> together. In fact, he will drive it more apart.
> Playing the rich vs the poor doesn't work.
> Obama is a Husk. Empty shell. Yes, we don't know
> who he really is and he doesn't know either. He
> could be any of us being used as a shell for
> Pelozi/Reid.
> McCain/Palin
Thanks for setting the record straight on this. The messiah's attempt to counter with the Keating 5 is pathetic. There is no moral equivalence here. Obama's associations and alliances speak of a person who is radically out of step with mainstream America in nearly every way. Yet, he will say anything to get elected so that he can then perpetrate his radical agenda and thereby weaken our country.
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> The Keating 5 including 4 democrats including John
> Glenn who is now campaigning for Obama. John
> McCain was exonerated. They are a far cry from a
> terrorist bomber. Thankfully he missed and no one
> was killed. Ayers' school reform is teaching kids
> radicalism. Obama started his political career in
> Ayers living room.
> Obamas friends...Alinsky, Ayers, Acorn. We aren't
> even up to the Bs yet.
> Alot of people are going to be in for a rude
> awakening should Obama get elected. He won't be
> able to give them their utopia life they think
> they will have. He will not bring the country
> together. In fact, he will drive it more apart.
> Playing the rich vs the poor doesn't work.
> Obama is a Husk. Empty shell. Yes, we don't know
> who he really is and he doesn't know either. He
> could be any of us being used as a shell for
> Pelozi/Reid.
> McCain/Palin
Thanks for setting the record straight on this. The messiah's attempt to counter with the Keating 5 is pathetic. There is no moral equivalence here. Obama's associations and alliances speak of a person who is radically out of step with mainstream America in nearly every way. Yet, he will say anything to get elected so that he can then perpetrate his radical agenda and thereby weaken our country.
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Don't you get it yet? That this is not simply about Barack Obama's radical "associations"?
When a presidential candidate has had a Communist mentor in Frank Marshall Davis in Hawaii as a young adult, and has gone on to have a Socialist role model in Saul Alinsky and be inspired to work for ACORN, and has joined a church like TUCC with a Black Liberation Theology headed by a militant pastor in Rev. Jeremiah Wright where he has befriended others like Father Michael Pfleger, and has joined in the work of unrepentant terrorist William Ayers by attempting to radicalize the school system, it does not require a genius to connect the dots and realize that this candidate possesses a radical agenda.
Barack Obama has been telling us in not-so-subtle ways throughout his career what his plans are. It is up to us to pay attention. And then act.
When a presidential candidate has had a Communist mentor in Frank Marshall Davis in Hawaii as a young adult, and has gone on to have a Socialist role model in Saul Alinsky and be inspired to work for ACORN, and has joined a church like TUCC with a Black Liberation Theology headed by a militant pastor in Rev. Jeremiah Wright where he has befriended others like Father Michael Pfleger, and has joined in the work of unrepentant terrorist William Ayers by attempting to radicalize the school system, it does not require a genius to connect the dots and realize that this candidate possesses a radical agenda.
Barack Obama has been telling us in not-so-subtle ways throughout his career what his plans are. It is up to us to pay attention. And then act.
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While one can see that a long time friend becomes corrupt shines a bad light on you even though when you first became friends there was no corruption between the two (You don't let silly little facts like this get in your way when you have your nose stuck up Obama's ash) .
On the other hand when you already know the person is corrupt (Even an 8 year old can know this) and you become friends with him and then try to tell people you didn't know he was corrupt makes you wonder if a Harvard degree is worth anything . (Unless of course you have your nose stuck up his ash)
Uncle Sam Wrote:
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> The American people know the difference between
> questionable involvement in a savings and loan
> scandal and a long-standing pattern of involvement
> in radical ideology and activity.
>
> The former speaks to an admitted mistake.
> The latter speaks to character and judgment.
On the other hand when you already know the person is corrupt (Even an 8 year old can know this) and you become friends with him and then try to tell people you didn't know he was corrupt makes you wonder if a Harvard degree is worth anything . (Unless of course you have your nose stuck up his ash)
Uncle Sam Wrote:
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> The American people know the difference between
> questionable involvement in a savings and loan
> scandal and a long-standing pattern of involvement
> in radical ideology and activity.
>
> The former speaks to an admitted mistake.
> The latter speaks to character and judgment.
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> Funny how Obama didn't 'realize' that Ayers had
> tried to blow up America when he went round for
> his campaign launch at Ayers house. Sound
> awfully familiar to Obama not EVER hearing any
> anti American talk at Rev Wright's church
>
> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
A spectre is haunting America -- the spectre of liberalism. All the powers of old America have entered into a holy alliance to exorcise this spectre: the GOP and Rupert Murdoch, the fundamentalist churches and the holders of offshore bank accounts, the smear machine and the blogosphere.
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> Funny how Obama didn't 'realize' that Ayers had
> tried to blow up America when he went round for
> his campaign launch at Ayers house. Sound
> awfully familiar to Obama not EVER hearing any
> anti American talk at Rev Wright's church
>
> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
A spectre is haunting America -- the spectre of liberalism. All the powers of old America have entered into a holy alliance to exorcise this spectre: the GOP and Rupert Murdoch, the fundamentalist churches and the holders of offshore bank accounts, the smear machine and the blogosphere.
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Hawk T Wrote:
Hawk T - whats scary is not Obama - its your paranoid fantasies
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> Once again Thomas Sowell shows his courage by
> telling people about the real Obama. But Sowell is
> only grazing the surface on the man people call
> Obama.
>
> But what is Obama's real name? Why does he have
> another name? Why didn't Obama tell us about his
> "other" names before?
>
> Why did Obama go to Pakistan in 1981 with an
> Indonesian passport? Why did Obama have the
> passport of another country if he was a citizen of
> the U.S.?
>
> The media in general are a bunch of liberal
> cowards afraid of being called racists.
>
> But, Thomas Sowell, you are a real man of courage
> for doing what you do.
Hawk T - whats scary is not Obama - its your paranoid fantasies
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> Once again Thomas Sowell shows his courage by
> telling people about the real Obama. But Sowell is
> only grazing the surface on the man people call
> Obama.
>
> But what is Obama's real name? Why does he have
> another name? Why didn't Obama tell us about his
> "other" names before?
>
> Why did Obama go to Pakistan in 1981 with an
> Indonesian passport? Why did Obama have the
> passport of another country if he was a citizen of
> the U.S.?
>
> The media in general are a bunch of liberal
> cowards afraid of being called racists.
>
> But, Thomas Sowell, you are a real man of courage
> for doing what you do.
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If, with all the information that you've gotten from this forum, you still think McCain in the choice that is best for America. There is no helping you.
Again, you guys voted for GWB, not once but twice.
Bush: The DOW was at over 11,000 now its below 10,000
Clinton: The DOW started near 4,000 and ended over 11,000 - real growth
Bush: Started with a surplus in revenue. Will end with the largest deficit in American History, even as a function of GDP Never submitted a balanced budget.
Clinton: Started with a deficit, ended with the only surplus in modern history... Submitted 3 balanced budgets.
Bush: Unemployment started at 4.2 percent and will end well over 6%
Clinton Unemployment started at 7.3% and ended at 4.2%
No Republican president has ever left office with an unemployment rate less than 5%.
If Bush had left office in 2004 the unemployment rate he left would have been 5.1%
I won't even talk about gas prices when the Pres or VP is an oil man.
You've already heard about the weakness of the dollar.
All of this information is readily available on the web. Be smart look it up. Quit proffering these specious arguments.
If for nothing but the financial and employment well-being of the country and not electing and adulterer and only the 2nd divorced President in American history, you should vote for Obama.
Again, you guys voted for GWB, not once but twice.
Bush: The DOW was at over 11,000 now its below 10,000
Clinton: The DOW started near 4,000 and ended over 11,000 - real growth
Bush: Started with a surplus in revenue. Will end with the largest deficit in American History, even as a function of GDP Never submitted a balanced budget.
Clinton: Started with a deficit, ended with the only surplus in modern history... Submitted 3 balanced budgets.
Bush: Unemployment started at 4.2 percent and will end well over 6%
Clinton Unemployment started at 7.3% and ended at 4.2%
No Republican president has ever left office with an unemployment rate less than 5%.
If Bush had left office in 2004 the unemployment rate he left would have been 5.1%
I won't even talk about gas prices when the Pres or VP is an oil man.
You've already heard about the weakness of the dollar.
All of this information is readily available on the web. Be smart look it up. Quit proffering these specious arguments.
If for nothing but the financial and employment well-being of the country and not electing and adulterer and only the 2nd divorced President in American history, you should vote for Obama.
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Uncle Sam Wrote:
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> The American people know the difference between
> questionable involvement in a savings and loan
> scandal and a long-standing pattern of involvement
> in radical ideology and activity.
>
> The former speaks to an admitted mistake.
> The latter speaks to character and judgment.
The American people see reality and are seeing that no amount of smear will change the hardship we will all have to FACE soon...if this economic mess turns into a RECESSION. You know well that Obama had no relationship with Ayres and does not subscribe to this kind of thinking....he is just a figure in Chicago's academic and political environment. Hardly a friendship. Obama is not a radical.... He has been criticized by the left wing constantly I don't have time to prove this, but people who follow politics closely know it is true. I will tell you who Obama is: an extremely pragmatic man who will do everything he can to FIX the economy. If you are concerned with your investments and 401k's, he is the man to vote for.
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> The American people know the difference between
> questionable involvement in a savings and loan
> scandal and a long-standing pattern of involvement
> in radical ideology and activity.
>
> The former speaks to an admitted mistake.
> The latter speaks to character and judgment.
The American people see reality and are seeing that no amount of smear will change the hardship we will all have to FACE soon...if this economic mess turns into a RECESSION. You know well that Obama had no relationship with Ayres and does not subscribe to this kind of thinking....he is just a figure in Chicago's academic and political environment. Hardly a friendship. Obama is not a radical.... He has been criticized by the left wing constantly I don't have time to prove this, but people who follow politics closely know it is true. I will tell you who Obama is: an extremely pragmatic man who will do everything he can to FIX the economy. If you are concerned with your investments and 401k's, he is the man to vote for.
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The Keating 5 including 4 democrats including John Glenn who is now campaigning for Obama. John McCain was exonerated. They are a far cry from a terrorist bomber. Thankfully he missed and no one was killed. Ayers' school reform is teaching kids radicalism. Obama started his political career in Ayers living room.
Obamas friends...Alinsky, Ayers, Acorn. We aren't even up to the Bs yet.
Alot of people are going to be in for a rude awakening should Obama get elected. He won't be able to give them their utopia life they think they will have. He will not bring the country together. In fact, he will drive it more apart. Playing the rich vs the poor doesn't work.
Obama is a Husk. Empty shell. Yes, we don't know who he really is and he doesn't know either. He could be any of us being used as a shell for Pelozi/Reid.
McCain/Palin
Obamas friends...Alinsky, Ayers, Acorn. We aren't even up to the Bs yet.
Alot of people are going to be in for a rude awakening should Obama get elected. He won't be able to give them their utopia life they think they will have. He will not bring the country together. In fact, he will drive it more apart. Playing the rich vs the poor doesn't work.
Obama is a Husk. Empty shell. Yes, we don't know who he really is and he doesn't know either. He could be any of us being used as a shell for Pelozi/Reid.
McCain/Palin
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Once again Thomas Sowell shows his courage by telling people about the real Obama. But Sowell is only grazing the surface on the man people call Obama.
But what is Obama's real name? Why does he have another name? Why didn't Obama tell us about his "other" names before?
Why did Obama go to Pakistan in 1981 with an Indonesian passport? Why did Obama have the passport of another country if he was a citizen of the U.S.?
The media in general are a bunch of liberal cowards afraid of being called racists.
But, Thomas Sowell, you are a real man of courage for doing what you do.
But what is Obama's real name? Why does he have another name? Why didn't Obama tell us about his "other" names before?
Why did Obama go to Pakistan in 1981 with an Indonesian passport? Why did Obama have the passport of another country if he was a citizen of the U.S.?
The media in general are a bunch of liberal cowards afraid of being called racists.
But, Thomas Sowell, you are a real man of courage for doing what you do.
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> You have to determine who a person is by what they
> do. Obama has a track record. He has a life. He
> has a voting record. He could have performed
> terroristic acts. He could have sided with other
> countries. He could have acted in a way that
> justifies all your scrutiny, but he has not.
>
> Judge him by what he does. Not by who he
> "associates" with.
Like Palin mentioned, Obama never says "I did"... but only says "I will"... now, what has he done?
Disenfranchised maybe 700,000 mostly minority school children in Chicago? What else except run for office?
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> You have to determine who a person is by what they
> do. Obama has a track record. He has a life. He
> has a voting record. He could have performed
> terroristic acts. He could have sided with other
> countries. He could have acted in a way that
> justifies all your scrutiny, but he has not.
>
> Judge him by what he does. Not by who he
> "associates" with.
Like Palin mentioned, Obama never says "I did"... but only says "I will"... now, what has he done?
Disenfranchised maybe 700,000 mostly minority school children in Chicago? What else except run for office?
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There's another disturbing class of Obama allies... fictional internet donors.
[www.newsweek.com]
One wonders, after a full accounting, how much of that $450+ million he's going to have to give back.
If the zeal of the Obamabots here is any indication, it might be a considerable amount.
[www.newsweek.com]
One wonders, after a full accounting, how much of that $450+ million he's going to have to give back.
If the zeal of the Obamabots here is any indication, it might be a considerable amount.
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> cassy--your mention af facts is the ultimate
> oxymoron.Be very careful.
Cassy,After rereading this post I realized it could be taken in more than one way,for that I apologize.
in the meantime check out wsws.org These good socialist's have a very large problem with the German Health Care System. Seems you can't please all of the people all of the time.
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> cassy--your mention af facts is the ultimate
> oxymoron.Be very careful.
Cassy,After rereading this post I realized it could be taken in more than one way,for that I apologize.
in the meantime check out wsws.org These good socialist's have a very large problem with the German Health Care System. Seems you can't please all of the people all of the time.
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Palin's husband is a secessionist and Palin herself have strongs to the AIP. Talk about hatred for America. With ties this close to such a radical group, McCain-Palin should be disqualified automatically.
" * As user Liz Arnett first informed us yesterday morning, the AIP is a political party in Alaska whose motto is "Alaska First." It's goal is to have a vote on Alaska's state status so that Alaskans may decide whether the state should secede, become a territory, become a commonwealth, or remain a state.
* The AIP has what most Americans would qualify as radical views on the relationship between the federal government and Alaska, including a belief that the federal government should be dissolved if gun rights are ever abolished or curtailed, a belief that the federal government is in breach of the Constitution, and complete opposition to environmental regulations and public ownership of Alaskan land.
* Yesterday night, it was is confirmed that Sarah Palin and her husband were members of the AIP at least in 1994. Indeed, Palin reportedly attended the AIP convention.
* In 2007, the Vice Chairman of the AIP, Dexter Clark, not only referenced Palin's membership, but also said that since she joined the GOP, "she is pretty well sympathetic to her former membership." Clark also goes on to discuss the need to "infiltrate" the major parties.
* In 2008, Palin recorded a message for the AIP's annual convention, stating that Alaska has "a great promise to be a self-sufficient state" and encouraging them to "keep up the good work."
" * As user Liz Arnett first informed us yesterday morning, the AIP is a political party in Alaska whose motto is "Alaska First." It's goal is to have a vote on Alaska's state status so that Alaskans may decide whether the state should secede, become a territory, become a commonwealth, or remain a state.
* The AIP has what most Americans would qualify as radical views on the relationship between the federal government and Alaska, including a belief that the federal government should be dissolved if gun rights are ever abolished or curtailed, a belief that the federal government is in breach of the Constitution, and complete opposition to environmental regulations and public ownership of Alaskan land.
* Yesterday night, it was is confirmed that Sarah Palin and her husband were members of the AIP at least in 1994. Indeed, Palin reportedly attended the AIP convention.
* In 2007, the Vice Chairman of the AIP, Dexter Clark, not only referenced Palin's membership, but also said that since she joined the GOP, "she is pretty well sympathetic to her former membership." Clark also goes on to discuss the need to "infiltrate" the major parties.
* In 2008, Palin recorded a message for the AIP's annual convention, stating that Alaska has "a great promise to be a self-sufficient state" and encouraging them to "keep up the good work."
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A "last ditch effort"? OK. Well, last time I checked, just about every job requires a background check. So far, Obama has avoided, denied or lied about his background. For the job of President of the United States (Or preacher of the US, professor of the u.s. for Obama supporters), any last ditch effort to evidence his character is crucial. The president is our representative to the world. Personally, I find it disturbing that we will trust a person who firmly resents this country, whose own closest mentors (or friends or acquaintances depending on the day/how BHO explains it) find America downright mean. These are the folks who shape Obama's character. Sorry, but I want someone who loves America, not despises it. It seems to me that the president of the USA should love the country he (or she) seeks to represent, not mingle with indicted criminals and known terrorists. That Hamas endorses Obama is enough.
Elliot Wrote:
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> This is a last ditch effort to bring down Obama.
> It's funny how all the conservatives fall
> lock-step in line with each other. It's like the
> RNC nationally sent out talking points for all the
> conservatives to bring up in unison. For some
> reason THIS WEEK of all weeks, we MUST discuss
> Obama's associations with William Ayers.
>
> Hillary tried the same thing in her last,
> desperate days of the primaries.
>
> Face it. Obama is not hiding any big dirty
> secrets. William Ayers is so irrelevant right now,
> it's ridiculous. But if you want to talk about
> associations that DO MATTER in the context we're
> in right now, we should be talking about McCain's
> corrupt involvement with Keating in the Savings
> and Loan scandal - which is shockingly relevant to
> what's going on right now with the economy.
>
> American's are smarter than you give them credit
> for and it's really sad how nasty and desperate
> McCain and people like you have become.
>
> You might not be able to save your party, but at
> least save your dignity.
Elliot Wrote:
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> This is a last ditch effort to bring down Obama.
> It's funny how all the conservatives fall
> lock-step in line with each other. It's like the
> RNC nationally sent out talking points for all the
> conservatives to bring up in unison. For some
> reason THIS WEEK of all weeks, we MUST discuss
> Obama's associations with William Ayers.
>
> Hillary tried the same thing in her last,
> desperate days of the primaries.
>
> Face it. Obama is not hiding any big dirty
> secrets. William Ayers is so irrelevant right now,
> it's ridiculous. But if you want to talk about
> associations that DO MATTER in the context we're
> in right now, we should be talking about McCain's
> corrupt involvement with Keating in the Savings
> and Loan scandal - which is shockingly relevant to
> what's going on right now with the economy.
>
> American's are smarter than you give them credit
> for and it's really sad how nasty and desperate
> McCain and people like you have become.
>
> You might not be able to save your party, but at
> least save your dignity.
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cassamandra: "class act!"
Well thank you. I appreciate that.
We all hear the doom and gloom scenario if one or the other candidate gets elected. The next POTUS is going to have a monumental job ahead of him. I don't envy either candidate.
With the way the economy is, two wars, a bitterly divided country; who would want that job? (cassa, I know this past sentence isn't punctuated correctly)
I think the President we see after the election is going to be quite different than what either guy is saying now.
Well thank you. I appreciate that.
We all hear the doom and gloom scenario if one or the other candidate gets elected. The next POTUS is going to have a monumental job ahead of him. I don't envy either candidate.
With the way the economy is, two wars, a bitterly divided country; who would want that job? (cassa, I know this past sentence isn't punctuated correctly)
I think the President we see after the election is going to be quite different than what either guy is saying now.
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Bosqcatl Wrote:
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> For all white folk who don't understand Obama's
> relationship with Rev. Wright, Rezco and Ayers,
> here's the truth!
>
> If you want to help poor people living in inner
> cities of America, where people are forgotten like
> third world refugees, then you're going to have to
> buy land from the Rezcos of the world, sit on
> community boards with the Ayers of the world, and
> attend cultural organizations and functions that
> have disgruntled, hurt, and formerly ostracized
> minoroty men and women such as Reverend Wright as
> its leaders. There's no getting around those
> facts! Just as in Iraq, if you want to advance
> that backwards society, then you have to do deal
> with and do business with seriously angry people.
>
> The sad reality is that suburban whites could give
> less than a flying fcuk about their poor American
> brothers and sisters living in death and
> destruction. When was the last time a Sean
> Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, or Glenn Beck came into
> the inner city to lend a helping hand or help
> inspire young black and Latinos, or their parents?
> Are these people not Americans? When the good and
> hard working people in these communities look out
> into the world and see and hear how Joe 6 Pack
> perceives them as announced by say a Hannity or a
> Limbaugh, then they become more alienated, more
> isolated and left to the hands of anyone who's
> willing to elp them. If that an Ayers, then any
> help is better than none! Hannitys, Limbaugh,
> and Becks want that alienation and isolation.
> They are the Bull Conners and George Wallaces of
> the current day! Thomas Sowell knows better, he’s
> sat on more panels with radicals than Obama has
> over the years. He may have an opposing view, but
> he's been sitting right next to those very same
> radicals. So, is Sowell a terrorist sympathizer?
>
> When the average white suburbanite or Joe 6 Pack
> finally believes that minorities living in the
> inner city are also their brothers then and only
> then will we slowlyrid ourselves of the Ayers,
> Wrights, and Rezcos. Until that happens we'll just
> continue to make more radicals, just like breading
> more Al Quieda and Bin Laden sympathizers in the
> Middle East! So until Joe 6 Pac and Hockey moms
> step the cerebral plate, I'll take Obama. Just
> like them Obama is an outsider, just with Ivy
> League credentials and bigheart who saw a need in
> the most needy part of this country. He gave up a
> Wall Street career to make a difference. For that,
> he gets my respect and vote!
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Here it comes... the 'woe is me' argument... Somebody come help me... I can't do it on my own. Everyone is against me, and I have nothing left in life....
Your misguided pity on an entire race of people is seriously stereotypical and hurtful. I know... that makes ME the racist...
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> For all white folk who don't understand Obama's
> relationship with Rev. Wright, Rezco and Ayers,
> here's the truth!
>
> If you want to help poor people living in inner
> cities of America, where people are forgotten like
> third world refugees, then you're going to have to
> buy land from the Rezcos of the world, sit on
> community boards with the Ayers of the world, and
> attend cultural organizations and functions that
> have disgruntled, hurt, and formerly ostracized
> minoroty men and women such as Reverend Wright as
> its leaders. There's no getting around those
> facts! Just as in Iraq, if you want to advance
> that backwards society, then you have to do deal
> with and do business with seriously angry people.
>
> The sad reality is that suburban whites could give
> less than a flying fcuk about their poor American
> brothers and sisters living in death and
> destruction. When was the last time a Sean
> Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, or Glenn Beck came into
> the inner city to lend a helping hand or help
> inspire young black and Latinos, or their parents?
> Are these people not Americans? When the good and
> hard working people in these communities look out
> into the world and see and hear how Joe 6 Pack
> perceives them as announced by say a Hannity or a
> Limbaugh, then they become more alienated, more
> isolated and left to the hands of anyone who's
> willing to elp them. If that an Ayers, then any
> help is better than none! Hannitys, Limbaugh,
> and Becks want that alienation and isolation.
> They are the Bull Conners and George Wallaces of
> the current day! Thomas Sowell knows better, he’s
> sat on more panels with radicals than Obama has
> over the years. He may have an opposing view, but
> he's been sitting right next to those very same
> radicals. So, is Sowell a terrorist sympathizer?
>
> When the average white suburbanite or Joe 6 Pack
> finally believes that minorities living in the
> inner city are also their brothers then and only
> then will we slowlyrid ourselves of the Ayers,
> Wrights, and Rezcos. Until that happens we'll just
> continue to make more radicals, just like breading
> more Al Quieda and Bin Laden sympathizers in the
> Middle East! So until Joe 6 Pac and Hockey moms
> step the cerebral plate, I'll take Obama. Just
> like them Obama is an outsider, just with Ivy
> League credentials and bigheart who saw a need in
> the most needy part of this country. He gave up a
> Wall Street career to make a difference. For that,
> he gets my respect and vote!
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Here it comes... the 'woe is me' argument... Somebody come help me... I can't do it on my own. Everyone is against me, and I have nothing left in life....
Your misguided pity on an entire race of people is seriously stereotypical and hurtful. I know... that makes ME the racist...
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wpi Wrote:
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> The fact of the matter is none of these candidates
> are truly qualified to be president. In fact 3 of
> them should be voted out of the Senate. What
> better preview could you asked for than how they
> just handled the economic bail out bill. They just
> voted to increase our already "out of control
> deficit" by 10% without a single hearing or with a
> clear understanding of what they were doing (other
> than CYA). Then, as if that wasn't enough, they
> add 150 billion for their special interest
> cronies. Given the above can anyone on this board
> tell me why I should vote for either one?
wpi,
We have been posters on these threads since the beginning of the campaign......I am sad to see you have been let down by the the candidates. I detect that you no longer wish to vote...but YOU must.
Putting partisanship aside, I think if Obama wins, it will be much better for the economy (and your pocket)for a variety of reasons. I do not know if you read the New Yorker article posted here yesterday, but it was an endorsement of Obama that summarized the whole electoral campaign incredibly well. It is THE best endorsement I have ever read. It tells you point by point(no vagueness) why the New Yorker editors endorse Obama. You may dismiss the New Yorker as a liberal publication, but it really is not. The New Yorker has earned many awards for its investigative reports and they serve no one.Here is the link if you didn't read it.
[www.newyorker.com]
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> The fact of the matter is none of these candidates
> are truly qualified to be president. In fact 3 of
> them should be voted out of the Senate. What
> better preview could you asked for than how they
> just handled the economic bail out bill. They just
> voted to increase our already "out of control
> deficit" by 10% without a single hearing or with a
> clear understanding of what they were doing (other
> than CYA). Then, as if that wasn't enough, they
> add 150 billion for their special interest
> cronies. Given the above can anyone on this board
> tell me why I should vote for either one?
wpi,
We have been posters on these threads since the beginning of the campaign......I am sad to see you have been let down by the the candidates. I detect that you no longer wish to vote...but YOU must.
Putting partisanship aside, I think if Obama wins, it will be much better for the economy (and your pocket)for a variety of reasons. I do not know if you read the New Yorker article posted here yesterday, but it was an endorsement of Obama that summarized the whole electoral campaign incredibly well. It is THE best endorsement I have ever read. It tells you point by point(no vagueness) why the New Yorker editors endorse Obama. You may dismiss the New Yorker as a liberal publication, but it really is not. The New Yorker has earned many awards for its investigative reports and they serve no one.Here is the link if you didn't read it.
[www.newyorker.com]
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Does John Glenn work for Obama , just a curious by-stander .
[townhall.com]
Elliot Wrote:
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> This is a last ditch effort to bring down Obama.
> It's funny how all the conservatives fall
> lock-step in line with each other. It's like the
> RNC nationally sent out talking points for all the
> conservatives to bring up in unison. For some
> reason THIS WEEK of all weeks, we MUST discuss
> Obama's associations with William Ayers.
>
> Hillary tried the same thing in her last,
> desperate days of the primaries.
>
> Face it. Obama is not hiding any big dirty
> secrets. William Ayers is so irrelevant right now,
> it's ridiculous. But if you want to talk about
> associations that DO MATTER in the context we're
> in right now, we should be talking about McCain's
> corrupt involvement with Keating in the Savings
> and Loan scandal - which is shockingly relevant to
> what's going on right now with the economy.
>
> American's are smarter than you give them credit
> for and it's really sad how nasty and desperate
> McCain and people like you have become.
>
> You might not be able to save your party, but at
> least save your dignity.
[townhall.com]
Elliot Wrote:
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> This is a last ditch effort to bring down Obama.
> It's funny how all the conservatives fall
> lock-step in line with each other. It's like the
> RNC nationally sent out talking points for all the
> conservatives to bring up in unison. For some
> reason THIS WEEK of all weeks, we MUST discuss
> Obama's associations with William Ayers.
>
> Hillary tried the same thing in her last,
> desperate days of the primaries.
>
> Face it. Obama is not hiding any big dirty
> secrets. William Ayers is so irrelevant right now,
> it's ridiculous. But if you want to talk about
> associations that DO MATTER in the context we're
> in right now, we should be talking about McCain's
> corrupt involvement with Keating in the Savings
> and Loan scandal - which is shockingly relevant to
> what's going on right now with the economy.
>
> American's are smarter than you give them credit
> for and it's really sad how nasty and desperate
> McCain and people like you have become.
>
> You might not be able to save your party, but at
> least save your dignity.
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Funny how Obama didn't 'realize' that Ayers had tried to blow up America when he went round for his campaign launch at Ayers house. Sound awfully familiar to Obama not EVER hearing any anti American talk at Rev Wright's church
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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The American people know the difference between questionable involvement in a savings and loan scandal and a long-standing pattern of involvement in radical ideology and activity.
The former speaks to an admitted mistake.
The latter speaks to character and judgment.
The former speaks to an admitted mistake.
The latter speaks to character and judgment.
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FactCheck Wrote:
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> To assume there is a real reason not to vote for
> Mr. Obama only serves to proof that the author is
> racisit. Stop the Smear - Mr. Obama does no
> wrong - EVER!
>
> Stop the Smear, Stop the Smear, Stop the Smear,
> Stop the Smear, Stop the Smear, Stop the Smear!
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Please tell me you are kidding... the author of this article is black... Was that posted by... um... "FactCheck"? um..... well.... um..... FactCheck?
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> To assume there is a real reason not to vote for
> Mr. Obama only serves to proof that the author is
> racisit. Stop the Smear - Mr. Obama does no
> wrong - EVER!
>
> Stop the Smear, Stop the Smear, Stop the Smear,
> Stop the Smear, Stop the Smear, Stop the Smear!
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Please tell me you are kidding... the author of this article is black... Was that posted by... um... "FactCheck"? um..... well.... um..... FactCheck?
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Thanks for the support, Words*Mutter!
Words*Mutter Driveled
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". . .keep slinging it at the wall, maybe you'll eventually find something that will stick"
As stickey as Liddy?
Read on, McDud. . .
Even McCain ackowledges that his continuing and thorough-going support for G. Gordon Liddy and the principals convicted felon G. Gordon Liddy stands for:
"When their connection became known, McCain minced no words:
"I think not only a repudiation but an apology for ever having anything to do with an unrepentant terrorist is due the American people"
George Gordon Battle Liddy (born November 30, 1930) was the chief operative for the White House Plumbers unit that existed during several years of Richard Nixon's Presidency. Along with E. Howard Hunt, Liddy masterminded the first break-in of the Democratic National Committee headquarters in the Watergate building in 1972. The subsequent cover-up of the Watergate scandal led to Nixon's resignation in 1974; Liddy served four and a half years in prison for his role in the burglary.
* btw, Word*Mutter, it's the constant repetition that makes this kind of stuff work, so if you really must reply to this, cut the words out that support my pristine points!
Words*Mutter Driveled
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". . .keep slinging it at the wall, maybe you'll eventually find something that will stick"
As stickey as Liddy?
Read on, McDud. . .
Even McCain ackowledges that his continuing and thorough-going support for G. Gordon Liddy and the principals convicted felon G. Gordon Liddy stands for:
"When their connection became known, McCain minced no words:
"I think not only a repudiation but an apology for ever having anything to do with an unrepentant terrorist is due the American people"
George Gordon Battle Liddy (born November 30, 1930) was the chief operative for the White House Plumbers unit that existed during several years of Richard Nixon's Presidency. Along with E. Howard Hunt, Liddy masterminded the first break-in of the Democratic National Committee headquarters in the Watergate building in 1972. The subsequent cover-up of the Watergate scandal led to Nixon's resignation in 1974; Liddy served four and a half years in prison for his role in the burglary.
* btw, Word*Mutter, it's the constant repetition that makes this kind of stuff work, so if you really must reply to this, cut the words out that support my pristine points!
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So the other reason to vote for Obama -- besides that he's simultaneously brilliant and ignorant -- is that if you don't, you're racisit! (spelling in the original)
FactCheck Wrote:
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> To assume there is a real reason not to vote for
> Mr. Obama only serves to proof that the author is
> racisit. Stop the Smear - Mr. Obama does no
> wrong - EVER!
>
> Stop the Smear, Stop the Smear, Stop the Smear,
> Stop the Smear, Stop the Smear, Stop the Smear!
FactCheck Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> To assume there is a real reason not to vote for
> Mr. Obama only serves to proof that the author is
> racisit. Stop the Smear - Mr. Obama does no
> wrong - EVER!
>
> Stop the Smear, Stop the Smear, Stop the Smear,
> Stop the Smear, Stop the Smear, Stop the Smear!
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beth barnat Wrote:
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> JK Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The real Sarah Palin
> >
> > On a cold fall evening in 1998 a pick up
> pulled
> > into my driveway. I peered out the window and
> two
> > people stepped out. I thought to myself , self
> > what are these folks trying to sell this late
> at
> > night? As they walked up the porch I opened
> the
> > door. Before I could decline the goods for sale
> a
> > lady said “hi I’m Sarah and this is my husband
> > Todd and I am running for Mayor of Wasilla.”
> At
> > first I was surprised that someone running for
> > Mayor would stop at a house as small as mine.
> > Surely there are not a lot of votes here. I
> then
> > introduced myself and my wife Lena. We briefly
> > talked about being new to the area due to a
> > facility closing in another city and my career
> > change. She talked about job creation in the
> > valley. Our talk was short but insightful.
> What
> > also sticks out here is Sarah was the incumbent
> > Mayor running for reelection and was so popular
> > that she probably would have won with out going
> > door to door yet still did.
> > My wife and I would see the Palin’s around
> town
> > from time to time. Sarah at the supermarket
> and
> > Todd at the local barber. I remember entering
> the
> > barber shop as Todd was leaving and giving him
> the
> > customary head nod. As he left an old timer
> said
> > “ wasn’t that the Governors husband?” The
> barber
> > said “sure was”. The old timer went on “ I’m
> > surprised he doesn’t git one of them expensive
> > haircuts at a ritzy place”. I laughed.
> > The next time my family would talk with the
> > Palin’s was in the spring of 2008. In that
> time
> > my wife and I had two gorgeous boys. Jaden who
> is
> > quick to smile with big blue eyes is 6 and
> Joren
> > who’s tongue is older than he just turned 5.
> > Jaden was born as healthy as can be but a
> little
> > early. At around 15 months he started to
> regress.
> > Lena noticed it at first and I ignored it as
> long
> > as I cog as I could. She was right. He could
> say
> > car and truck, but that went away. He could
> turn
> > a light switch on and off when we stood next to
> > it, but he stopped doing that too. We made an
> > appointment with a doctor and Jaden was
> diagnosed
> > with a severe seizure disorder. I do not cry
> much
> > but I did that day. I will probably tear up
> > writing this. The last 5 years have gone by
> very
> > quickly with several bridges crossed and many
> more
> > ahead. We tried several different medications
> > with no luck. We tried a low carbohydrate diet
> > with no luck. We decided that a VNS ventricle
> > nerve stimulator may help. The VNS was
> implanted
> > in Jaden’s chest and so far it has been helping.
>
> > When Lena talked with the Palin’s this spring
> it
> > was before Trig was born. They saw picture’s
> of
> > our son’s and would inquire about both . My
> wife
> > told them Jaden’s story. They were very
> affected
> > by it. They asked my wife questions and she
> could
> > see concern in there eyes. It was later
> released
> > that Trig would have his own special needs.
> Lena
> > remembers that they had the same look we did
> when
> > Jaden was first diagnosed. Lena talks to Sarah
> > and Todd every so often and they continue to
> ask
> > how the boys are and Lena asks the same of Trig.
>
> >
> > I write this as a life long registered Democrat
> a
> > 15 year union member and someone who gave money
> to
> > Hillary in the Democratic primary. I followed
> > the process for over a year and watched in
> dismay
> > the MSM’s (MSNBC)(CNN) lack of fair and equal
> > reporting on all candidates. The DNC stood by
> and
> > did nothing while certain pundits were
> blatantly
> > sexist and biased. The DNC did not follow
> their
> > own rules when deciding on how to proceed with
> > Florida and Michigan. I could go on and on.
> We
> > here in Alaska are all fairly friendly, but
> when
> > something just isn’t right we pounce. The
> > trashing of our Governor is reprehensible.
> > Finding it news worthy to report on a
> politicians
> > teenage kids is despicable. The TODAY show
> (NBC)
> > and The Situation Room (CNN) should be ashamed.
>
> > The virulent and biased reporting should not
> be
> > tolerated by anyone during this election as it
> was
> > in the Primary.
> > Mostly I tell you this because no one really
> > knows what is in the heart and mind of a
> > politician. Sarah understands small town
> > America’s struggles and as Governor she
> > understands a states struggles in America, but
> > mostly she understands the strugg
-------------------------------------------------------
> JK Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The real Sarah Palin
> >
> > On a cold fall evening in 1998 a pick up
> pulled
> > into my driveway. I peered out the window and
> two
> > people stepped out. I thought to myself , self
> > what are these folks trying to sell this late
> at
> > night? As they walked up the porch I opened
> the
> > door. Before I could decline the goods for sale
> a
> > lady said “hi I’m Sarah and this is my husband
> > Todd and I am running for Mayor of Wasilla.”
> At
> > first I was surprised that someone running for
> > Mayor would stop at a house as small as mine.
> > Surely there are not a lot of votes here. I
> then
> > introduced myself and my wife Lena. We briefly
> > talked about being new to the area due to a
> > facility closing in another city and my career
> > change. She talked about job creation in the
> > valley. Our talk was short but insightful.
> What
> > also sticks out here is Sarah was the incumbent
> > Mayor running for reelection and was so popular
> > that she probably would have won with out going
> > door to door yet still did.
> > My wife and I would see the Palin’s around
> town
> > from time to time. Sarah at the supermarket
> and
> > Todd at the local barber. I remember entering
> the
> > barber shop as Todd was leaving and giving him
> the
> > customary head nod. As he left an old timer
> said
> > “ wasn’t that the Governors husband?” The
> barber
> > said “sure was”. The old timer went on “ I’m
> > surprised he doesn’t git one of them expensive
> > haircuts at a ritzy place”. I laughed.
> > The next time my family would talk with the
> > Palin’s was in the spring of 2008. In that
> time
> > my wife and I had two gorgeous boys. Jaden who
> is
> > quick to smile with big blue eyes is 6 and
> Joren
> > who’s tongue is older than he just turned 5.
> > Jaden was born as healthy as can be but a
> little
> > early. At around 15 months he started to
> regress.
> > Lena noticed it at first and I ignored it as
> long
> > as I cog as I could. She was right. He could
> say
> > car and truck, but that went away. He could
> turn
> > a light switch on and off when we stood next to
> > it, but he stopped doing that too. We made an
> > appointment with a doctor and Jaden was
> diagnosed
> > with a severe seizure disorder. I do not cry
> much
> > but I did that day. I will probably tear up
> > writing this. The last 5 years have gone by
> very
> > quickly with several bridges crossed and many
> more
> > ahead. We tried several different medications
> > with no luck. We tried a low carbohydrate diet
> > with no luck. We decided that a VNS ventricle
> > nerve stimulator may help. The VNS was
> implanted
> > in Jaden’s chest and so far it has been helping.
>
> > When Lena talked with the Palin’s this spring
> it
> > was before Trig was born. They saw picture’s
> of
> > our son’s and would inquire about both . My
> wife
> > told them Jaden’s story. They were very
> affected
> > by it. They asked my wife questions and she
> could
> > see concern in there eyes. It was later
> released
> > that Trig would have his own special needs.
> Lena
> > remembers that they had the same look we did
> when
> > Jaden was first diagnosed. Lena talks to Sarah
> > and Todd every so often and they continue to
> ask
> > how the boys are and Lena asks the same of Trig.
>
> >
> > I write this as a life long registered Democrat
> a
> > 15 year union member and someone who gave money
> to
> > Hillary in the Democratic primary. I followed
> > the process for over a year and watched in
> dismay
> > the MSM’s (MSNBC)(CNN) lack of fair and equal
> > reporting on all candidates. The DNC stood by
> and
> > did nothing while certain pundits were
> blatantly
> > sexist and biased. The DNC did not follow
> their
> > own rules when deciding on how to proceed with
> > Florida and Michigan. I could go on and on.
> We
> > here in Alaska are all fairly friendly, but
> when
> > something just isn’t right we pounce. The
> > trashing of our Governor is reprehensible.
> > Finding it news worthy to report on a
> politicians
> > teenage kids is despicable. The TODAY show
> (NBC)
> > and The Situation Room (CNN) should be ashamed.
>
> > The virulent and biased reporting should not
> be
> > tolerated by anyone during this election as it
> was
> > in the Primary.
> > Mostly I tell you this because no one really
> > knows what is in the heart and mind of a
> > politician. Sarah understands small town
> > America’s struggles and as Governor she
> > understands a states struggles in America, but
> > mostly she understands the strugg