bahamamama Wrote:
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> Dennis in Denver Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > bahamamama Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Ben_M Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Are Mr.Rathammer, so very predictable.
> > > >
> > > > Any democract is bad, any republican is
> good,
> > > bomb
> > > > Iran, long live the Jewish Enclave.
> > > >
> > > > Just keep spinning the above, article after
> > > > article.
> > >
> > > ARE YOU A RACIST???? You sure write like
> one.
> > > Good response
>
>
>
> No one is racist here. I didn't even write that.
> The point here is that CHuckie here has a very
> limited view of the world and all you neocons take
> it as gospel.


You seem to confuse conservatives with liberals....... hard core liberals being the ones with the greatest tendency to swallow happily all the pablum their preferred talking heads wish to feed them. On the other hand, conservatives have a greater tendency to *think*.....

Jim Wrote:
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> "I agree, Obama is even more embarrassing than
> Bush and I didn't think that was possible."
>
> Obama is the Democratic version of George W. Bush.


What principles does Obama stand for?

Bush has demonstrated his principles. Obama has not.

Jim Wrote:
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> "I agree, Obama is even more embarrassing than
> Bush and I didn't think that was possible."
>
> Obama is the Democratic version of George W. Bush.


McCain is the Republican version of Abe Simpson.

Neither this country nor the world needs an inexperienced, arrogant Empty Suit as leader of the free world. Why is it taking so long for the mainstream media to report the truth? The stakes are too high for the media to remain complicit in the "coronation" of this Chicago politician, with all of the pejoratives implied, as president of the United States.

Man, it must be a full moon... the McCain trolls are out tonight.

Its easy, anyone can do it... here is the formula:

1. Express concern.

2. Qualify your concern with one of the following:

a-your unending love for the country
b- your service in the military
c- the fact that you are or were a Democrat
d-some other experience that would qualify you (lost a son on 9-11, work for CIA, etc)

3. Make sure to include at least two of the following terms when referring to Obama:

Flip-flopper
Elitist
Muslim
Marxist
Racist
Unpatriotic
Empty Suit
Coward
Terrorist

4. Make sure to not mention McCain or any of his stances on issues, only vague references to his POW experience are accepted but really should be avoided.

5. Bonus points are awarded for:

Blasting the Media
Using the phrase "threw _________ under the bus"
Mentioning he didn't leave his church for 20 years
Attributing his success merely to his race.
Using the term "kool-aid drinkers" when referring to supporters.

5. When finished, start over only change the name on the post.

There you have it- the anatomy of the McCain troll RCP thread echo chamber.

BigTobacco Wrote:
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> GOP failures in a nutshell:
>
> Economy

The overall economy over the last 7 years has been better than during the eight years before, the current difficulties stem from a combination of subsidized ethanol production reducing the supply of food and increasing prices (Liberal Democrat policies), and a continuation of the refusal to tap domestic oil reserves and develop nuclear power (Liberal Democrat policies), despite a threefold increase in the price of crude oil....

> Trade

Such as trade with Columbia, who export goods to the US tariff free, while US goods are taxed heavily when shipped co Columbia? I seem to recall legislation to lift that trade tarriff, but it was voted down (by liberal Democrats)...

> Energy

See 'Economy'

> War on Terror

You mean the one we're winning? (Iraqi violence decreasing dramatically, Iraqi military and police daily taking more and more control of their country, to ensure their security on their own, and with it their future as a free and independent nation)

> Katrina

Katrina - where the Mayor (liberal Democrat) allowed graft and corruption to redirect federal funds intended for improving and maintaining the levee system into local politicians' and contractors' pockets, allowed the breaking levees to flood sections of new orleans before taking any action, such action consisting mainly of doing interviews. Meanwhile, the LA Governor, (Liberal Democrat), hemmed and hawed for days afterward before authorizing the national guard to come in and assist (posse commitatus, you know....)

> Health Care

Health care is not a guaranteed right. It's not granted in the constitution. Illegal immigrants don't have a right to a federal medical plan, though they already get free medical treatment at emergency rooms, and while a large number of americans do not carry health insurance, many of them *choose* not to, having invested the time and effort in prevention, and kept themselves in good enough health that all they need is a yearly checkup, which can be paid for in cash, instead of spending thousands a year for insurance, when they only make a few hundred in claims. Plus, having taken care of my health, eating well, exercising, not engaging in high risk activities like drug abuse, alcohol abuse, etc, I don't feel the government has any right taking money from my paycheck (as additional taxes) and redistributing it to people who have spent their lives eating junk, smoking crack, doing meth, and living on the couch playing video games. It's an encouragement to the abrogation of personal responsibility.

> Housing

If Congress (Democrat controlled) hadn't pressured lenders into extending credit to those not credit worthy in order to not be labelled racist or discriminatory, al portion of the homes in danger of forclosure wouldn't be on that list at all. Add to it property held vacant by real estate speculators who stop paying for them because they believe the government is going to bail them out, and there goes another big slice. The numbers on this housing issue have been greatly exaggerated and/or misrepresented. Then Chuck Schumer (Liberal Democrat) let's it slip that he doubts the solvency of IndyMac, and you have a 1.6 billion dollar run on that bank - which *makes* it insolvent.....

> Justice Department

The Justice Department that has been operating short of federal judges, because the Democrats refuse to approve of any of the president's judicial apointments?

> Environment

AlGore, your environment messiah, is CEO of a carbon credit trading company. The farther he pushes his global warming (oops, tems are dropping, now we have to call it the Climate Crisis), the more money he stands to make from cap and trade legislation. The same AlGore that has a carbon footprint greater than any 20 of the rest of us.....

> Defense

What do you suppose our defense will look like after Obama slashes the defense department budget to help pay for his program of new entitlements? Doesn't anyone remember Carter doing the same thing in the 70's?

> and so on.
>
> Now, I don't expect politicians to solve all these
> problems... but at least they could stop making
> them worse. I won't say that the GOP is inept,
> because all of these disaster have yielded huge
> windfalls for the special interest groups that
> support them. But if you are not one of the
> profiteers, the GOP looks like a bunch of
> miserable failures.
>
> Words_Matter Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > BigTobacco Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Michael,
> > >
> > > What you say is the sad truth: McCain is not
> > > Bush.
> > >
> > > Yet, he is bending over backwards to continue
> > > Bush's failed policies. Either McCain is
> just
> > > lying to sucker the Bush dead-enders in
> voting
> > for
> > > him. Or he is telling the truth, and is
> going
> > to
> > > plunge the nation deeper into the Bush
> > cesspool.
> > >
> > > I actually think McCain is lying and that he
> > would
> > > be a decent president. It just makes me sad
> > that
> > > someone who presents himself as a man of
> > > principle, and who presents his opponent as a
> > > liar, is actually flip-flopping, lying, and
> > > sliming his way through this campaign.
> > >
> > > On the other hand, Krauthammer is a vain
> little
> > > fascist. He is who I was referring to when I
> > made
> > > my comment. And, his uncanny ability to be
> so
> > > freaking wrong while thinking he is so
> freaking
> > > superior means that his opinion on Obama's
> > vanity
> > > is suspect.
> > >
> > > michaelp0429 Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > McCain IS NOT BUSH.
> > > >
> > > > Why do you guys keep pretending to yourself
> > and
> > > > trying to con the rest of the world that
> this
> > > > election is Bush vs. Obama? Because you
> > know
> > > > the only way people will vote for Obama is
> if
> > > you
> > > > distort McCain's record and try to twist
> him
> > > into
> > > > Bush III?
> > > >
> > > > Some new kind of politics.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > BigTobacco Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > You know what else is vain? Being dead
> > wrong
> > > > for
> > > > > nearly a decade, screwing up the country
> > > beyond
> > > > > recognition, and strutting around like
> you
> > > have
> > > > an
> > > > > opinion that is worth a darn.
> > > > >
> > > > > Republicans always accuse everyone else
> of
> > > > their
> > > > > own weaknesses.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Which policies are currently failing?

Oh my ...
Krauthammer critical of Obama? Call the press! And if you can't reach them, call ... Krauthammer.
This 'reporter' is as predictable as gravity. But once Obama is in office, K-ham will still have a job railing away against the government. In an economy like ours, it's staggering how incompetence is rewarded with job security.

Illinois Voter #494, I liked your post.
Can you give us more?

Why isn't anybody writing about BHO's next-to-zero accomplishments as a community organizer?
Who will explain why this so-called gifted man never published while president of the Harvard Law Review?
Who is going to give us a detailed account of his years in the Illinois senate?

I finally figured out why Obama is making this a 6 day trip........

On the 7th Day He rests.

This trip is a campaign media trip of the first order and the Brandenberg Gate is simply on more TV back drop for platitudes about how America has been so bad and that Obama will ask for foregiveness from the "community of nations".
Posted by: Bmarks

Man, I can't believe you just gave up the high ground so immedialely for partisan politics.

There is NO reason for any American politician to cede being able to speak at the Brandenburg Gate whenever the F... they want to.

We've earned that right.

RyanW Wrote:
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> Man, it must be a full moon... the McCain trolls
> are out tonight.
>
> Its easy, anyone can do it... here is the
> formula:
>
> 1. Express concern.
>
> 2. Qualify your concern with one of the
> following:
>
> a-your unending love for the country
> b- your service in the military
> c- the fact that you are or were a Democrat
> d-some other experience that would qualify you
> (lost a son on 9-11, work for CIA, etc)
>
> 3. Make sure to include at least two of the
> following terms when referring to Obama:
>
> Flip-flopper
> Elitist
> Muslim
> Marxist
> Racist
> Unpatriotic
> Empty Suit
> Coward
> Terrorist
>
> 4. Make sure to not mention McCain or any of his
> stances on issues, only vague references to his
> POW experience are accepted but really should be
> avoided.
>
> 5. Bonus points are awarded for:
>
> Blasting the Media
> Using the phrase "threw _________ under the bus"
> Mentioning he didn't leave his church for 20
> years
> Attributing his success merely to his race.
> Using the term "kool-aid drinkers" when referring
> to supporters.
>
> 5. When finished, start over only change the name
> on the post.
>
> There you have it- the anatomy of the McCain troll
> RCP thread echo chamber.


Sir,

You suffer from Political Racism. In America, everyone is entitled to an opinion, without being put down or slandered. In Communist countries, they try to control thought.

Say what you will about George W. Bush, he does know how to speak Spanish.
Posted by: Jim

So do I. I know plenty about how to get legal immigrants to fill out the correct papers.

Does George W. Bush know how to fill out the papers of legal immigrants?

Until he knows how to do that, I wouldn't promote his Spanish language skills.

Congratulations on your brilliant article, 'The Audacity of Vanity.' You truly hit the nail on the head and articulated what a lot of Americans feel about Obama's candidacy. Great article.

www.independentpolitics.net

RyanW Wrote:
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> MystWlker Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Mecklen Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I'll tell you what hubris and vanity are: the
> > > continued posturing of an ivy-tower intellect
> > > whose string of successes (in terms of
> > positions
> > > advocated) include nearly a million dead in
> > Iraq,
> > > trillions in debt, the constitution mocked to
> > hell
> > > and back, and our standing in the world at an
> > > all-time low.
> >
> >
> > Post a credible source for the figure of one
> > million dead in iraq. If you're going to parrot
> > the talking points, have the information to
> back
> > it up. or be quiet.
> >
> > The Constitution has suffered more at the hands
> of
> > Democrats in the last eight years than because
> of
> > the president. Eminent domain? Curtailing the
> > executive branch's war authorities? ( the ones
> > that grant the right to tap phone conversations
> to
> > and from suspected terrorists without having to
> > obtain warrants? the ones that grant the right
> to
> > the executive branch to detain enemy
> combatants,
> > and to conduct military tribunals as we did in
> > wwII?)
> >
> > trillions in debt - yet the president has NO
> > AUTHORITY to spend any money, period. He has to
> > ask congress and the senate. They control the
> > government pursestrings - and they're spending
> > like a sailor on shore leave in Manila.
> >
> > And should I really care if France and Germany
> > likes us, after they made a fortune on the
> > oil-for-food scam, at our expense?
>
>
> Those "Constitutional Rights" you mention (i.e.
> wire tapping, forever holding enemy combatants,
> military tribunals and eminent domain- none of
> which I agree with you on) were struck down not by
> liberal Democrats, but instead by a Supreme Court
> that has 7 of 9 members appointed by Republican
> Presidents. The liberal bogeyman does not work
> here.
>
> And the surplus of the 90s was long gone by the
> time Democrats took power back in congress in
> 2006. You can blame our astronomical debt on your
> own party.



Constitutional *authority*, not constitutional right...

and don't agree with me just because I say it, read the Constitution for yourself

Actually there are four conservative justices, four liberal justices, and kennedy, who could vote either way depending how he feels in the morning. Once they're apponted they're there for life, so who appointed them isn't nearly as important as how their ideology has evolved. Since Sen Kennedy and company control who gets appointed, a couple of justices have slipped through who aren't exactly conservative, in order to get *someone* appointed...


As for the debt, first we had 9/11, then we had Katrina, we have a two front war to fight, and to add insult to injury, we have congress and the senate earmarking us into the poorhouse - when they aren't granting massive grants to the likes of ConAg, and the ethanol industry. (and sometimes they do *both* on the same legislation). But still, the president has NO authority to spend, he can approve spending by the legislative brance, and he can ask them to vote to spend. Either way, it's the legislative branch that decides what money is spent, and how. By the way, the rebublicans are not my party............



And, you didn't quote a credible source yet for your claim of a million dead in iraq............

A Bunch Of you racist need to get a life. All of you are a part of the "Buush" era, including

"Mein Kamp" Krauthammer. Won't be long now we will have a new day, Change is a coming!!
And I dont mean John McCain.

MystWlker Wrote:
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> Mecklen Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I'll tell you what hubris and vanity are: the
> > continued posturing of an ivy-tower intellect
> > whose string of successes (in terms of
> positions
> > advocated) include nearly a million dead in
> Iraq,
> > trillions in debt, the constitution mocked to
> hell
> > and back, and our standing in the world at an
> > all-time low.
>
>
> Post a credible source for the figure of one
> million dead in iraq. If you're going to parrot
> the talking points, have the information to back
> it up. or be quiet.
>
> The Constitution has suffered more at the hands of
> Democrats in the last eight years than because of
> the president. Eminent domain? Curtailing the
> executive branch's war authorities? ( the ones
> that grant the right to tap phone conversations to
> and from suspected terrorists without having to
> obtain warrants? the ones that grant the right to
> the executive branch to detain enemy combatants,
> and to conduct military tribunals as we did in
> wwII?)
>
> trillions in debt - yet the president has NO
> AUTHORITY to spend any money, period. He has to
> ask congress and the senate. They control the
> government pursestrings - and they're spending
> like a sailor on shore leave in Manila.
>
> And should I really care if France and Germany
> likes us, after they made a fortune on the
> oil-for-food scam, at our expense?

The executive branch's 'war authority' that the Congress (and a few former members of the Bush Senior administration) wants to curtail is a 1973 law -not the Constitution.
American companies too made sh*tloads of money with the oil-for-food scam, no need to blame other countries. Btw, US defense contractors sold their junk to Saddam under Reagan's watchful eye, too.

So, why don't you check you sources -unless they are from Rush Limbaugh's oral farts.
You neocon gasbags are so easy to deflate, it's not even funny anymore.

MIKE FIELD YOU'RE COMPLETELY TWISTED.

First your statement is not factually accurate, in fact up until south carolina CLinton had the majpority of the black vote and then came Bill's comparison to Jesse Jackson. his use of the words "fairy tale" to describe Obama's opposition ot the war, and Hillary's comments about PResident Johnson and the Civil Rights Movement. Up until those three events in fact the clinons were winning the majoirty of the black vote.

So your first premise is false --that Obama won because he played to the lefty and to blacks

Regarding blacks and left wing people aren't they americans also? Don't hteir votes count? Do the democrats who are fighting and dying in Iraq are their lives worth less? Help me out here what is your point about the left wing supporting Obama by and large that is the majority of the country now, at least if the polls are any indication

But more than that you neglected some of the other reasons why Obama is beating the hell out of Mc cain

He graduated from Harvard Law School
He taught constitutional law
He has written two award winning books
He has served in state and national offices
he is an excellent writer and orator
He was editor of the Harvard law review
He has re invented campaign finance and eliminated 527's from the democratic apparatus
He defeated the clintons

Compare all that to mc cain and his D average, his privileged up brining, the beer princess, but I like mc cain in spite of all that, the trouble with mc cain is that he flip flops he was against the tax cuts for the wealthy before he was for them, he was against agents of intolerance ( falwell et. al) before he sought their endorsement, torture, roe v wade, the list goes on...He used to have to principle, now he 's just another politician--there is no difference bewtween mc cain and bush on any issue...So why would any body vote for him?





> Not so impressive as Henry B. says he is. After
> all, somebody has to be nominated. The real
> ability Obama showed in the primary season ability
> was the ability to capture the left-wing vote. He
> won, for one thing because he was running against
> an opponent with a lot of negatives, but also
> because he was able to do something even a
> "Kennedyesque" white male candidate could not have
> done, capture a huge percentage of the black vote.
> He did that because he is black, not because of
> his "remarkable abilities and vision".
>
> A similar white candidate (and it is possible for
> one to exist), might have gotten some percentage
> of young blacks voters and black professionals,
> but no way would that white candidate have won any
> large percentage of the black vote against Hillary
> Clinton. Against that mythical charismatic white
> candidate, Clinton would have won most of the
> black vote for the same reason she won the white
> blue collar vote against Obama.
>
> Obama took advantage of his opportunities where
> many others failed over the years, but he is no
> miracle man. Remember, also, that he was never
> alone in his pursuit. He began with the powerful
> Chicago-Daley machine behind him and the support
> of John Dean, and that is a good start right
> there.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> >
> > mamatx Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Obamabots try to compare Obama's lack of
> > > experience with that of Reagan and Lincoln.
> > What
> > > they fail to understand that both of those
> > great
> > > men had strong core beliefs, forged over many
> > > years, that guided their lives and their
> policy.
> >
> > > Regan had executive experience as governor of
> > > California. Obama has talked to lots of
> people
> > > and watched Rev. Wright closely to learn how
> to
> > > make people swoon and faint with his sermons.
> > >
> > > Obama's core belief: I want to be President.
>
> > I
> > > will be President. I deserve to be President.
>
> > I
> > > will do or say anything that I need to to
> > become
> > > President.
> > >
> > > Barack Obama: He stayed in a Holiday Inn last
> > > night.

REAGANESS YOU ARE AN IDIOT YOU ALWAYS HAVE BEEN AN IDIOT YOU ALWAYS WILL BE AN IDIOT

1. I have no son 25 years old or otherwise, I don't know who you are confusing me with.
2. You are the one that compared Hitler to Obama which was was twisted and weird
3. I know plenty about LSATS and the like and in fact currently black native american et. al cannot get into UW Law School without a minimum of 3.5 GPA before they even look at your LSATS YOur comment disparagin a graduate of harvard law school and chlaking it up to his race is
a. incorrect
b. not facutlly based
c. just plain weird
d. Reagenenss do youself a favor and actully reason an argument rather than spewing hatred and foolishness but to be clear, I have no son, I am not "green" I have no idea who you are confusing me with but it's creepy. Your an odd female...



Anti Reaganess. Wrote:
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> OMG!!
>
>
> Like I said you don't understand higher education,
> it is so "OBVIOUS" as to your lack of
> understanding. You are in over you head.... you
> simply don't have a clue as to how the system
> works.... Don't speak to college, my good friend,
> you don't have are lost in the environment. What's
> the average LSAT score at Harvard anyway? You
> don't have a clue you don't even know what I am
> talking about. Daniel it's so easy to see when one
> is dealing with the un-informed, when they try to
> be, or understand, what they they (do not)
> understand, and are not.... It's ok if you have a
> GED, we all have to start somewhere....
>
> ..................................................
> ..................................................
> ...........
>
> Posted by: OBVIOUS
> Comment: #315
> Jul 18, 11:58 AM
>
> REANGNESS YOU ARE AN IDIOT
>
> There were NUMEROUS POINTS THAT WERE STUPID, in
> fact MOST OF YOUR POINTS ARE STUPID BUT THIS ONE
> WAS JUST FUNNY
> __________________________________________________
> ____________________
> > the same "underwater decoration degree" will get
>
> > you into Harvard Law, if you can cut the
> > mustard.... That's the way it works in "Higher
> > Education."
> >
> >
> > Anti Reaganess.
> __________________________________________________
> _____________________You couldn't get into
> University of Wisconsin Law School much less
> Harvard no matter what color
> you were, although that you are a woman might help
> a little but not enough
> ..................................................
> ..................................................
> ...................
>
> Do you want to tell me about your 25 year old son,
> from Stanford, who is the chief exective of
> Microsoft.... Or was it Google? you just wrote
> about him last night.... Just more of you
> infinite, bag of (BS). Mr Green the thing about
> college is those of us who have been there know
> the rules, those who haven't don't really
> understand it, even if they spent "10 years" at a
> Junior College it's not the same thing.
>
> As to your "Idiot" comment, I refrain from saying
> things like "you poor ignorant slob" as it does
> not really add to content of the discussion.
>
>
> Anti Reaganess.

GiNFiZ Wrote:
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> MystWlker Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > bahamamama Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Dennis in Denver Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > bahamamama Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > Ben_M Wrote:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----
> > > > > > Are Mr.Rathammer, so very predictable.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any democract is bad, any republican is
> > > good,
> > > > > bomb
> > > > > > Iran, long live the Jewish Enclave.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Just keep spinning the above, article
> > after
> > > > > > article.
> > > > >
> > > > > ARE YOU A RACIST???? You sure write like
> > > one.
> > > > > Good response
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > No one is racist here. I didn't even write
> > that.
> > > The point here is that CHuckie here has a
> very
> > > limited view of the world and all you neocons
> > take
> > > it as gospel.
> >
> >
> > You seem to confuse conservatives with
> > liberals....... hard core liberals being the
> ones
> > with the greatest tendency to swallow happily
> all
> > the pablum their preferred talking heads wish
> to
> > feed them. On the other hand, conservatives have
> a
> > greater tendency to *think*.....
>
> Conservatives sure do think -with their a**! Take
> Michael 'Potty Mouth' Savage saying that about 99%
> of children with autism are 'brats'. Deeeeep
> thinking around here! Compassionate Conservatism
> in action!


Your reply would seem to point out who is using their gluteus maximus for cognitive exercises. And I don't listen to michael savage, although I'm still trying to deduce just what your point is - aside from the classic liberal name-calling to disguise the lack of a reasoned rebuttal........
Come to think of it, your quote is probably taken out of context anyway. However, conservatives are compassionate - I've always had the utmost compassion for the cognitively challenged.......

Mr. Obama: A case of missing identity


While Mr. Obama attempts a remedial course in foreign relations within a campaign of European public relations, the American people know better than to buy this steaming heap of propaganda.

We remember JFK.
We remember RFK
And we remember Dr. King.

Mr. Obama, sir? You are not one of them. Not even close.

Who do you take us for, anyway?

So stop trying to ride their coattails every which way with your feigned "statesmanship," rolled white shirtsleeves, retro-stylized PR, and weekly reinventions.

Run a campaign on substance, not subliminals.

In fact...

Try developing a legacy of your OWN instead.

What a concept.

Hokiepokie Wrote:
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> Obama's core belief: I want to be President. I
> will be President. I deserve to be President. I
> will do or say anything that I need to to become
> President.
>
> Barack Obama: He stayed in a Holiday Inn last
> night.
>
> hahaha..........I love this mamatx..........he is
> a fraud..........


another neocon hit job.....who [pays you Rush, Hannity or Limbaguh. I t seems that it is here where the nut jobs come to post. They have nothing agaisnt Obama except anger, smear and cynicism. The more mud the GOP throws at Obama the more they will sink in it.Heheheh

Obama rules!

HEGEMON Wrote:
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> Sad that the only candidate the Neo-Cons has is a
> War Hero wasn't that used before by the Dems. Too
> bad for this war hero though, that's all the
> credentials he thinks will take to win this
> election. What a sham. God bless all our true
> fallen heroes. God bless America


Nothing could be more truthful. As much as the neocons criticize Obama I think secretly they admire his political acumen. He is really the most clevfer politician I have seen in a long time. He is beating neocons at thei own game and they can't stand it.

The job of president is LEADER.

McCain had more leadership experience his first year at USNA than BHO had in his entire career to date.

The country does NOT need another lawyer for president. It does need a leader.


Obvious Wrote:
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> MIKE FIELD YOU'RE COMPLETELY TWISTED.
>
> First your statement is not factually accurate, in
> fact up until south carolina CLinton had the
> majpority of the black vote and then came Bill's
> comparison to Jesse Jackson. his use of the words
> "fairy tale" to describe Obama's opposition ot the
> war, and Hillary's comments about PResident
> Johnson and the Civil Rights Movement. Up until
> those three events in fact the clinons were
> winning the majoirty of the black vote.
>
> So your first premise is false --that Obama won
> because he played to the lefty and to blacks
>
> Regarding blacks and left wing people aren't they
> americans also? Don't hteir votes count? Do the
> democrats who are fighting and dying in Iraq are
> their lives worth less? Help me out here what is
> your point about the left wing supporting Obama by
> and large that is the majority of the country now,
> at least if the polls are any indication
>
> But more than that you neglected some of the other
> reasons why Obama is beating the hell out of Mc
> cain
>
> He graduated from Harvard Law School
> He taught constitutional law
> He has written two award winning books
> He has served in state and national offices
> he is an excellent writer and orator
> He was editor of the Harvard law review
> He has re invented campaign finance and eliminated
> 527's from the democratic apparatus
> He defeated the clintons
>
> Compare all that to mc cain and his D average, his
> privileged up brining, the beer princess, but I
> like mc cain in spite of all that, the trouble
> with mc cain is that he flip flops he was against
> the tax cuts for the wealthy before he was for
> them, he was against agents of intolerance (
> falwell et. al) before he sought their
> endorsement, torture, roe v wade, the list goes
> on...He used to have to principle, now he 's just
> another politician--there is no difference
> bewtween mc cain and bush on any issue...So why
> would any body vote for him?
>
>
>
>
>
> > Not so impressive as Henry B. says he is. After
> > all, somebody has to be nominated. The real
> > ability Obama showed in the primary season
> ability
> > was the ability to capture the left-wing vote.
> He
> > won, for one thing because he was running
> against
> > an opponent with a lot of negatives, but also
> > because he was able to do something even a
> > "Kennedyesque" white male candidate could not
> have
> > done, capture a huge percentage of the black
> vote.
> > He did that because he is black, not because of
> > his "remarkable abilities and vision".
> >
> > A similar white candidate (and it is possible
> for
> > one to exist), might have gotten some
> percentage
> > of young blacks voters and black professionals,
> > but no way would that white candidate have won
> any
> > large percentage of the black vote against
> Hillary
> > Clinton. Against that mythical charismatic
> white
> > candidate, Clinton would have won most of the
> > black vote for the same reason she won the
> white
> > blue collar vote against Obama.
> >
> > Obama took advantage of his opportunities where
> > many others failed over the years, but he is no
> > miracle man. Remember, also, that he was never
> > alone in his pursuit. He began with the
> powerful
> > Chicago-Daley machine behind him and the
> support
> > of John Dean, and that is a good start right
> > there.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > mamatx Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Obamabots try to compare Obama's lack of
> > > > experience with that of Reagan and Lincoln.
>
> > > What
> > > > they fail to understand that both of those
> > > great
> > > > men had strong core beliefs, forged over
> many
> > > > years, that guided their lives and their
> > policy.
> > >
> > > > Regan had executive experience as governor
> of
> > > > California. Obama has talked to lots of
> > people
> > > > and watched Rev. Wright closely to learn
> how
> > to
> > > > make people swoon and faint with his
> sermons.
> > > >
> > > > Obama's core belief: I want to be
> President.
> >
> > > I
> > > > will be President. I deserve to be
> President.
> >
> > > I
> > > > will do or say anything that I need to to
> > > become
> > > > President.
> > > >
> > > > Barack Obama: He stayed in a Holiday Inn
> last
> > > > night.

bonnier Wrote:
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> Neither this country nor the world needs an
> inexperienced, arrogant Empty Suit as leader of
> the free world. Why is it taking so long for the
> mainstream media to report the truth? The stakes
> are too high for the media to remain complicit in
> the "coronation" of this Chicago politician, with
> all of the pejoratives implied, as president of
> the United States.

The press is losing its power to the people. Bloggers and web sites are killing the newspapers and even TV news is losing share.

BHO gets ratings. That's all that matters to the media, ratings.

Obama at the Brandenburg Gate, eh?

....."ich bin ein pretender."

Charles K is so biased and spiteful that how can anyone take what he writes serious. If Obama were to somehow end hunger in the world and save 2 million starving babies, Charles K would criticize him for for contributing to over population. So Obama is arrogant huh Joker boy. Then what do you call W? Loses the popular vote, but governs as if he won by a landslide, ignores the advice of seasoned generals on how to conduct the Iraq war and listens to chicken crap service dodgers like himself that believe we could "shock & awe" or enemies into submission, steps all over the constitution and smugly declares executive priviledge for him and his cronies, takes the country down a very unAmerican and arrogant path of preemptive attacts on nations give us dirty looks. The Bush administration is all about hubris an no wisdom.

You are so far off base! I particularly take issue with your point that Barak Obama has not written a piece that is noteworthy or memorable other than the two books he has written (Your words, not mine!). His speech about racism in America has been hailed by many in the public eye as one one that will be long remembered. His speech on foreign policy this week shares his philosophy as well as a specific plan for bringing America to a previous international stature deserving of respect and not one of derision.

It seems that those who support McCain are concerned that Barak Obama did exactly what his presumptive opponent asked him to do. Go and find out for yourself. And so Obama is travelling, asking questions and formulating opinions for himself. (And it just so happens that the press core is interested and have come along.) That is much more than what George W. Bush did before he took office. He stumbled over questions about names of countries. And it appears that may be what McCain will do as well. He confused Irag with Iran and needed Lieberman to assist him more than once. Barak Obama will indeed be able to show his ability to be a national leader on the world stage.

Take time to read and formulate an unbiased opinion from the information that is out there about Barak Obama. He is very knowledgeble of the critical challenges our country faces. He has the sound judgement to create a plan and consider the possible consequences both nationally and internationally before taking action. He will assemble a cabinet without the ideology of the Bush administration. Rather, he will assemble a cabinet where there can be discussion, rather than align members of his cabinet who are ideologically joined at the hip. Look at the wisdom of Cheney and Rumsfeld, men with years of experience and where did that lead us to? An ideoligically pre-planned war with Iraq causing a deficit that we are paying for every day and that future generations may very well pay for as well!!! (How did Bush include an open-minded man of sound judgement such as Colin Powell in this cabinet? ) Notice the number of men and women who,because of his or her sense of integrity, bailed out of this administration: Clark, O'Neill, Whitman, and McClellan to name a few. Barak Obama will lead this nation with an assembly of men and women committed to do what is best for the country and the world.

My final point is that sound judgment, the ability to bring people together, skills to communicate logically and with civility are all part of the necessary skillset of the leader of the greatest nation on earth. Americans desperately seek a person who speaks to them, inspires them and ultimately brings this torn nation together once again. That person will be the next president of the United States. Barak Obama.

"My final point is that sound judgment, the ability to bring people together, skills to communicate logically and with civility are all part of the necessary skillset of the leader of the greatest nation on earth. Americans desperately seek a person who speaks to them, inspires them and ultimately brings this torn nation together once again. That person will be the next president of the United States. Barak Obama."

Torn nation?

It seems to me the tearing is being done by the socialists. Gore had to use every means possible to to win and the moonbat liberals can't understand how a two time governor from TX could win.

Why should I or any US citizen compromise liberty and property to socialists?

If the nation is torn so be it. Compromising with evil brings NO good.

MystWlker wrote:

"I don't listen to michael savage, "

That's the first intelligent thing I've head from you.

"> Come to think of it, your quote is probably taken
> out of context anyway. "

Go on Youtube (Savage on Autism) , you'll listen to your compassionate loudmouth -not out of context!

"However, conservatives are
> compassionate -"

Racial profiling for Muslims (Michelle Malkin)
Call for murder (Ann Coulter)
Yeah, that sure is compassionate...

"I've always had the utmost
> compassion for the cognitively challenged......."
Not all autistic people are 'cognitively challenged' (I know one):

You've just displayed your ignorance and prejudice.

Why must 'compassionate' 'liberal/progressives' use the coercive power of the state to take from the rich and 'give' to the poor?

Truly compassionate conservatives give, with no need for coercion, more of themselves and their money than 'compassionate' liberals.

"Mr. Krauthammer is probably the most brilliant political commentator around."

LOL... Someone alert the New Yorker! Ozzie has mastered satire, because no one could with a straight face make that statement. Not even Krauthammer's botox infused mug could withstand that knee-slapper.

Amazing! Does anyone else notice that any criticism of Barack Hussein Obama is immediately labeled "racist" by his adoring throngs?
Posted by: Let Em Vote


Classic! Does anyone else notice that no one is using 'racist', expect those trying to innoculate themselves against that charge?

Obama may be a liberal, and that's fair game....but, puhleeze, I rarely hear liberals call those who disagree with Obama's POV racists. It happens occasionally, but the way you phrase it only supports your own POV, which is that all those supporting Mr. Obama do so because he is Black.

Ever occur to you that Mr. McCain's supporters are 95% White, and that you could make an arguement that that those who support him do so because he's White?

Where does that leave the charge of 'racism'?

"so ANY criticism of Obama is racist but anti-semitism is perfectly cool? Flawless Logic. "

Again...innoculation at work. What is the point here? You want to point out that all who do not accept criticism of Obama are doing so on racist grounds....that all liberals are racist? And fascist because they won't accept ANY criticism of Mr. Obama because he is black?

It's a pretty convenient strategy. Keeps conservatives from having to deal with the fact that at least half the country does not agree with them, and conveniently blames race or intolerance.

Nevermind that conservatives have failed to convince half the country that they are correct. Easier to blame racism, or sexism (when Ms. Clinton was the heir apparent), rather than face the fact that conservatives have had plenty of time to convince voters that their policies are correct, and have failed .

Jeff Johnson Wrote:
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> Obama at the Brandenburg Gate, eh?
>
> ....."ich bin ein pretender."


Classic!!!!!!

I am amazed at how obamamaniacs attack anyone who debates against Obama! I am even more amazed that his supporters don't see "through" him but, I am pretty well convinced that his coronation will be successful. Sad to me.

OZZIE #71, GREAT POST! I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING ABOUT SCHULTZ AND HANNITY. I THINK IT'S GUYS LIKE THEM AND SHOWS LIKE HARDBALL, COUNTDOWN, THE O'RIELY FACTOR AND THE ORIGINAL CROSSFIRE THAT TEND TO POLARIZE PEOPLE (AND JUST AS IMPORTANT MEMBERS OF CONGRESS) TO THEIR RESPECTIVE CORNERS. IT NEVER USED TO BE LIKE THIS. THE MSM IS LARGELY RESPONSIBLE FOR TURNING THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS INTO REALITY TV. YOU SHOULD RE-POST YOUR POST WHEN MORE PEOPLE WILL SEE IT!!!

wpi Wrote:
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> OZZIE #71, GREAT POST! I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE
> SAYING ABOUT SCHULTZ AND HANNITY. I THINK IT'S
> GUYS LIKE THEM AND SHOWS LIKE HARDBALL, COUNTDOWN,
> THE O'RIELY FACTOR AND THE ORIGINAL CROSSFIRE THAT
> TEND TO POLARIZE PEOPLE (AND JUST AS IMPORTANT
> MEMBERS OF CONGRESS) TO THEIR RESPECTIVE CORNERS.
> IT NEVER USED TO BE LIKE THIS. THE MSM IS LARGELY
> RESPONSIBLE FOR TURNING THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS
> INTO REALITY TV. YOU SHOULD RE-POST YOUR POST WHEN
> MORE PEOPLE WILL SEE IT!!!

You don't think issues polarize?

When fundamental issues of security and property rights are in play, what side will you compromise?

When one side wants to tax the air we exhale, when they are not willing to defend the country, when they want to raise your taxes, whey they want to dictate the definition of marriage, when they want to allow non-citizens the vote, ...what side will you take or will you give in so not to be polarized?

Chicago gal Wrote:
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...
>
> The fact that Obama is black doesn't bother me -
> it's his long time radical friends, religious
> militant church, James Cone philosophy, and New
> Party/ACORN affiliations that bother me.
>
>
>
> McCain 08

Why, if one is half black & half white, then one is black? Why isn't he white?
His mother, Stanley, was/is about as white as one can get.

Vegas Vic Wrote:
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> occam Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> ...
> > 2. Mediocre CYA Ill voting record, but he gets
> good marks for being present.
>
> I hate defending the profit Obama, but in
> Illinois, voting 'present' means the bill needs
> further work, send it back, make changes, then
> bring it up for a vote later. Voting 'nay' means,
> 'kill it'

Perhaps in some cases but NOT ALL.

Rich Miller, who writes and publishes The Capitol Fax

"Miller points out that, at times, Obama was the only lawmaker voting "present" on bills winning near unanimous support, even on issues he supported and on one he sponsored."

I did some research, and there were at least 36 votes, most controversial, where Obama voted present and it wasn't part of a party strategy and the bills were passed or defeated.

And this.

"There's a saying in Springfield that there's a reason why the present button is yellow," Miller says.

Stop the spinning and cut the rhetoric. You don't help a nation when all you do is spin, spin, spin. It's a new era and a new beginning. We need change now and Obama is the man!

This hits the nail on the head! I hope the Big "O" continues to strut his stuff -it is a very big turn off to the common man! Good grief that uppity chin is dreadful- can't imagine having to look at him look down on us!

winningwell Wrote:
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> lea Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Stop the spinning and cut the rhetoric. You
> don't
> > help a nation when all you do is spin, spin,
> spin.
> > It's a new era and a new beginning. We need
> > change now and Obama is the man!

Capertree Wrote:
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> As usual, Charles Krauthammer is right on the
> money. How, how on earth can any rational person
> believe Barack Obama should be President? It's
> just mind boggling that this lightweight could
> win.

Risky Guy

Obama says that the McCain campaign is going to paint Obama as a risky guy. The campaign would be guilty of political malpractice if it did not.

Obama would like to ground the risk in his name and ethnicity, thereby nullifying it. It’s not that easy. The risks inherent in Obama as president are not so superficial. The riskiness of Obama lies rather in his inexperience, his priorities, and his military naiveté. Add to this a child-like refusal to confess error and to acknowledge the superior judgment of your political adversaries and you’ve got a very risky proposition indeed.

The American public does not want to witness a first day in office which announces weekly bi-partisan meetings with members of Congress (My God!, why didn’t I think of that?), and lectures on the importance of turning off lights and plumping up tires, etc. He’s not running for class president you know.

Another major element of risk is Obama’s sense of social priorities. His hostility toward the engines of our nation needs no elaboration. More troubling is his connection with liberal groups bent on income redistribution, social reparations, and the corrosive concept of collective guilt for individual misconduct. If you’re white and not destitute, get ready to pay one way or another.

Of course, risks are worth taking if there’s the potential for reward. Try as I may, I just don’t see it with an Obama presidency. In an infantile quest for international affection, he’ll surely weaken this country both economically and militarily.